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I have a FRY 117 pump with the original blue glass and my question is; Is there any way to repair a hairline crack in the glass? If not what is the best way to prevent a crack from spreading? I looked through the past topics/comments using the search feature but could not find anything on this subject. Thanks for any advice on this matter. Uploaded with ImageShack.usUploaded with ImageShack.us
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Hello, BB holes are one thing, but cracks are another.It appears that you(or someone else)has already loosened the top. Oftentimes cracks will become breaks once the pressure is released. You may try to penetrate the crack with something like superglue or apply a two part epoxy resin to the inside.Another option would be to have the cylinder shortened. You might just consider leaving it alone? Lets hear from some of our resident experts... Glass can be an unnerving experience. Been there, Dave
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Use the Google Search box at bottom of page [it's Blue on my screen]
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Thanks for the advice Dave. You are exactly right. This was my first visible pump and when I first got it about 18 months ago it had no damage to the glass. Well, me being a real restoration greenhorn at the time, I thought it would be a great idea to take it all apart and have it sandblasted. I started taking all of the rusty cylinder rods off and then the next day a 1 inch vertical crack appeared at the base. A few days later the crack had grown to about 8 inches long and took off horizontal to the right as you can see in the picture. I did put some super glue in the crack seam on the exterior but I have never been able to get the cylinder cap off. Therefore I have never been able to get on the inside of the glass to apply any glue to that. I will probably just leave the glass alone since it is the original piece and is not even noticable if you are on the opposite side of it. The crack has not grown at all in the last year so I can probably live with it if it stays this way. Thanks again!
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I tried the search below but still found nothing relative to repairing, controlling or maintaining visible pump cracked glass. I am surprised that this has not been an active topic before. Hopefully this is not a "user error" issue on my part.
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Just PLEASE do NOT mess with the metal rings on the ends of the cylinder. I have seen cylinders break all the way around when those rings come off. Once you remove the conduit and cylinder rods...you can gently bump the top and it should come off. Since your cylinder is already cracked you are a disadvantage. I personally believe that your cylinder may crack all the way around once relieved of the pressure. I have also seen them crack from top to bottom(vertical). Be careful whatever you decide to do and wear safety glasses. Where are you in Alabama? Dave
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BEFORE I would Bump Top of a cracked cylinder, I'd use a stiff putty knife around bottom.
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Dave, I am in the Huntsville area. The pump is from around here too and had been on a farm for many years. It was also used by the the local black student school bus system up until desegration in the late 60's so it has some pretty cool history behind it. I am with you on being careful the cylinder and had to learn that the hard way I guess. When I tried getting the conduit apart about a year ago it was basically impossible. Those things were so frozen up and I just gave up after the glass crack appeared. I have done everything I am going to do to it at this point and have supplied a picture of it in its present state. Hopefully the crack will not increase but I guess only time will tell. Thanks, Tony Uploaded with ImageShack.us
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Absolutely...I meant to bump the top of the pump...not the glass. I think that I would not mess with it. The best laid plans of mice and men... LOL Dave
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Good deal. Pump looks good. Dave
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He who never has made a mistake is one who never does Anything. IF you have never Broke a Cylinder, you Don't have enough Visible Pumps! I've broke 3!
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I broke one twice...and I don't like the sound of that "tink"...NO LOL Dave
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broke one twice.. only counts as 1 ! LOL
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Awright then...HOW many others out then will "fess up" to breaking a cylinder...or something else on a pump ? Dave
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I agree and feel your pain. My next project is on a G&B 176 with blue glass and no cracks (yet). We will see how this one goes but I can assure you that I will not be messing around with the cylinder rods or removing the top. I am just going to cover the glass with painter's tape and plastic and then apply some paint stripper. Afterward I will sand all of the cylinder area carefully by hand. The skins have already been removed and I will have those sand blasted. Hopefully this will be the right approach.
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Thank you sir. I went the slow route and it took me about a year to get it to this state. I have the pump that goes at the base (real heavy by the way) and pump handle and hope to incorporate that at some point later in time.
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I have broken two, of these glass cylinders and was able to buy original replacements at sales and swap meets to finish the pumps. I keep the broken ones where I can see them, just remind me to use a lot of caution when trying to remove them. I had a Fry 71 with a piece broken out the entire length of the cylnder and when I removed the rods the remaining section splindered snd sent glass every where.You just never know what to expect.
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Safety glasses...always. Dave
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Ideally OSHA would have you dressed like a Lunar Landing crew member, but even they don't know when or IF it will break!
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If you take out one cylinder rod at a time and clean it up then put it back and tighten before removing the next one will you avoid cracking?
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Worth a try, but getting same tension back on rod will be a coin toss.
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They crack when they expand...temperature change, pressure/release,etc.I have taken them out in one piece and they still cracked. Dave
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I've taken out 4 and haven't had one break yet.knocking wood now!
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I've taken out 4 and haven't had one break yet.knocking wood now! MICK....you just jinxed yourself! LOL!
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If you take out one cylinder rod at a time and clean it up then put it back and tighten before removing the next one will you avoid cracking? That sounds like a good plan right there ! ; )
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