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Did they make them in narrow and wide versions? Or just wide? Also did they have a clockface version? If so did they have a narrow body without hips and a clock mech?

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Can't sleep 'till you know!

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Does anyone know? I can't sleep until I know!

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You must have had a restless night last night!


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ROTF,LMAO
Buy the BOOK.

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Book shows the 60a in a narrow body ,with computer,no hips.only version shown! Is that the only one? Maybe and maybe not! Night,night!

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Looking for gas,oil related clocks,especially neon and spinners .clock repair available. Mick
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Originally Posted By: Mick
Book shows the 60a in a narrow body.

NO IT DON'T

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Ok the text says that! So book is wrong?


Looking for gas,oil related clocks,especially neon and spinners .clock repair available. Mick
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I have a wide clock with no hips. 866?

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The book is wrong! Shows a wide body pump. The text says narrow body. lol

I would bet they made them.


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I have the dang book and it says narrow but shows wide. I've seen wide body version in person but never a narrow body without hips. Oilmanpat is yours a clock version wide shoulders with no hips?

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Just because a pump is Not in the book doesn't mean that it wasn't made.
petropumps restored a Hand Operated Wayne 800, it's not pictured in book. Other models were Hand Pump Only, why not the 800?
According to the Book;
Why don't we see/find Tok. 34's w/ Clock Face, Twin? Tok. Models Before & After were.
Why did Bowser wait till the Fig. 310 to do a twin?

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You told me to get the book. Half my stuff isn't in the book so I know the book is pretty useless. That's why I asked you dick!

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Quit making all those Heinz 57"pumps".
Ya can't breed Dogs w/ pigs, even Morgan Can't sell let alone Rent pigs. So WHY breed them?

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I'll put a globe on anything and call it a pump! You know this Dick! We texans make due! It's too hot to be worrying about the book!!

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Yes it is.

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Does your tag say 866 or 60-c or 866-c or what?

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Most pump companies would let you Special Order a pump in any configuration that was available at the time for a small extra fee. Tidewater had exclusive use of the Wayne 60-T. ie: Special Design Ordered.
Even through Wayne had some tie-in w/ Veeder-Root, they could sell a Clock face [866] pump cheaper than a VR. VR charged all companies for using the VR calculating mech. in their pumps.

Wayne 60's & 866's were made;
Wide or Narrow Base.
W/ or W/O Hips.
W/ or W/O Showcase.
W/ or W/O Hand Pump.
W/ or W/O Hole for Hand Crank of Rotary Pump.
Only the Wide had the Fancy Globe Holder.

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My 60-A measures 19" from outside of shoulder to outside. Just like my regular wide 60's. The base is around 24" wide. Just like the center section of a regular 60 without the bumps for the hips.

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Thanks! So there is a base out there that is for narrow shoulders and frames without hips. That's something I would like to see!

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I really can't believe you call my book as being useless just because you own some pumps that are not shown in the book.

I submitted 2000 images to the publisher, they decided to use 1900 of them. Had I gone past 1965 I could have supplied almost 4000 images.

Try accumulating and sorting our all this material and not making a mistake, I can point out a couple of more mistakes that you guys have not found yet.

Back to the book being usless. Back when I was writing the second edition of the book I asked the guys on this website to send me pictures of pumps that were not in the first edition, I received about ten. Most of the guys were waiting to say, I have a pump that isn't in the book, not saying I helped in the writing of the book. I even had a guy sending me an email telling me that a picture he sent me better not be used in the book, because he did not give me permission to use it, fortunatly, I had a better picture than he sent me. Take a look at all the names I listed as helping to write the book, is your name there?

Also, what have you done to better this hobby? I spent over six month sitting at a computer writing the second edition, even longer writing the first book. It got to a point, that my wife was complaining that the only thing she saw for six month was the back of my head.

No one writes a hobby book to make money, I found that out quickly after I wrote the first book, the only thing is does is to increase your, or I should say, my ego. Meaning when I meet a person at one of the shows and they see my name tag they say "Oh, you are he guy who wrote the gas pump book."

I don't regret writing any of the four books that I have written, I am proud of the fact that not only did I enjoy this hobby, but that I did something to make it better.

BTW, if you don't want the book, send it to me, I will refund your money.

Jack Sim

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Sorry Jack. Wasn't saying the book was useless in a whole. I mean in this situation. Came across this a couple of times. Thanks for writing the book and you did a great job. No one could expect any one person to not miss a pump. Good job and can't wait for a 3rd!

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Mine is an 866.

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I love the 72r. Would love to have one. Now I'm guessing there isn't a narrow body without hips. Anyone have a cracked narrow base or some hipless sides?

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Oh and thanks dick!

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There is a narrow w/o hips.
I have a wide base made for w/o hips [base was replaced & pump was re-built w/ hips].

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Would you be interested in selling it? And would you have brackets that hold the clock mech?

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I had a chance to buy one of those 72Rs back in 1996. It was to funky and bought a Wayne 866 instead.


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MATT!!! Killing me!

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Matt, 16 years later and with the benefit of hindsight....would you still buy the Wayne 866? At the least, I'm sure you regret not buying both.


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Could've, Should've, Would've IF'n we knew then what we know Now!

WE ALL should've bought more pumps/globes & Signs we couldn't afford THEN.

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this is the one i had --change the base and add sides with hips--still have the old base and sides-- was found in matts back yard years ago in pleasanton ca


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List items that are For Sale in For Sale Forum.

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Originally Posted By: Dave's Garage
Matt, 16 years later and with the benefit of hindsight....would you still buy the Wayne 866? At the least, I'm sure you regret not buying both.


Today I still would not get the 72R. I sold the 866 I bought and not sure I would get another.


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I wanna see Matt's backyard! I'm sure there is something there I'd like to buy!

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You already own three pumps in my yard. The best stuff is inside.


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The stuff inside is Nfs! Lol. But yeah. You have some good stuff in there! Some of my favorites!

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