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Wed Sep 19 2012 11:49 AM
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I thought I was finally starting to figure out how these old pumps worked, but then I saw this thing!
These parts are off the Fry 117 that my class is going to start working on pretty soon. It looks like to me that there is a handle broken off the first aluminum piece. It also looks like that handle may have hooked inside the aluminum piece in the second picture. Did that somehow regulate how much gas was being pumped into the cylinder?
There are 10 of the aluminum pieces bolted onto a pipe on the inside of the pump. One of those pieces has a finger broken off of it (see last picture). Does anybody out there have a good one we can purchase to replace the broken one with?
As always -- thanks for the help! Chris
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I just saw that you can get reproduction handles and fingers from Vic's 66. However, I still don't quite get how this thing is supposed to work.
Does the whole pipe slide up and down? Nothing inside this pump moves. I don't know if it is supposed to and everything is just froze up, or if it is all stationary.
Thanks.
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After looking at the fingers on Vic's 66, they are not exactly like the one we need.
So, I guess we are still looking for an original. Please let me know if you have one available.
Thanks.
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The shaft that the handle attaches to should move up and down. It would slide into the appropriate"fingers" to determine the amount of gasoline that could be pumped into the glass cylinder. Any excess would drain back to the tank.
I have not yet had one apart so I'm not up on how to get that shaft freed up but others on here will be able to answer that question.
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Let me guess,the fill tube was ran all the way up? The packing would start to leak around bottom of fill tube in cylinder,so they ran it all the way up packed it and broke the handle off. You see lots done this way,or I'm assuming that was their solution to the leak. Your correct each finger is one gallon,so you should have ten.
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Hello, The first photo is part of the regulator handle which is attached to the overflow pipe which is moved up and down and locked into the "fingers". These are usually cut off with the overflow pipe all the way up(10 gallon mark). They then bent the lock tab on the upper access door to prevent any tampering. A return to tank downspout was attached to return any unsold gas to the underground tank. You need one finger and a regulator handle and need get that overflow pipe unstuck.It is brass so be careful. You can usually free it up with PB Blast or WD 40 by soaking in the upper and lower castings where there is graphite packing cord. Email me for pictures or more info. Have I totally confused you. The 117 is a fairly simply pump. It will be fun for you guys. Dave
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Patent Drawing Mae West-FRY Patent Drawing etc Download PDF then save to a file for printing
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Thanks for sharing this. I have always been curious about the mechanical functions of the Fry 117 pump I have too. I hope there will be some "Fry Guys" at the show in Susan Moore, AL this weekend.
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Here is a Patent for a 17. Notice that Patent above & this one were issued to The WAYNE Pump Co. 17 Patent
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Yep, you guys are all correct. The broken off lever was clear up at the very top finger. We got the brass pipe out, and it had what looked like a coil of rope around the top and bottom, but the rope had metal wire intertwined in it.
The brass pipe was stuck inside two aluminum compression fittings -- one at the top, and one at the bottom. Since this thing isn't going to hold gasoline anymore, will it be ok to not replace the coils of rope? That brass pipe should slide up and down now that we have everything loose, but it will be metal on metal when it is re-assembled.
I also noticed that the brass pipe has chrome plating on it. Is that common on this pump? The two pipes that form a long upside down U up inside the cylinder also appear to have been chrome plated at one time.
Anybody happen to have an extra finger in the style we are looking for?
Thanks! Chris
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It's Nickle Plating, Not Chrome. IF you don't replace the Graphite packing, I suggest a rope soaked w/ oil/grease [even though it won't be raised/lowered much after restoring].
Click on 117 Patent above as it tell how every thing works.
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You can get packing in different diameters. Combine that with not tightening the compression fittings as much, and it should work fine. Sure beats metal to metal!
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Is that rope stuff called "packing"? Does anyone know if there is supplier of it?
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Graingers or a well stocked hardware store. Google Graphite Packing.
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