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Maybe you guys can get a complimentary copy out of it, I would let him know how you feel, it may be a simple resolution.

The point of whether someone is making money or not has to do with the extent of damage the owner of the photo claims. Pros would be more likely to collect any damages. In this cover your *** society we live in
one should always try to get a release.

I never relized what a fine collection of stolen property I actually own(or do I?)

Good point, I once made the mistake of sending a picture to someone of an only one known wrigleys gum dispenser, he circulated the image so much thru scans and photocopies that a year later everyone was convienced that there was a bunch of them out there, which of course did affect the value of the piece.
I am not familiar with the signs in question but if they are unique that would agitate me as well.

I am a professional photographer and it is true that the law offer more sympathy to those taking pictures for a living.

I thought we'd get some feedback/opinions when I mentioned that one of my signs ended up in Richard's new book without my permission (wasn't sure if this would become a can of worms but I wanted to get other collectors' opinions). Well stated opinions on all sides. I'm not "looking for anything" as far as $$, credit for ownership, etc.; I just think that if you don't know where a photo of an item came from or don't have permission to use said photo you shouldn't use it. With Richard being in business I'm kind of surprised that he & his publisher would go ahead & print the book w/o checking on ownership of an item before using it. JMO

Property Of... marks mean nothing. Signs and globes were routinely discarded or sold as scrap. Lots of the stuff we coollect was actually given away!

Tom,
Could be whoever gave Amistadi that picture said the sign was his!

Funny thing....a repro guy sent me a cd with pics of original globes. He said they were for me to look at, but I couldn't publish them. Punch line: Some of the globes pictured were mine!

I believe it was Jason that asked why someone wouldn't want pictures of their stuff published.
1. They don't want it repopped. Not all reppops are marked. Some potential buyers might decide to settle for a repro, thus possibly hurting the resale value.
2. Security. As the value of our collections increase this will become a bigger issue.
3. Ego. Everyone likes to have something that most people have never seen.

A couple thoughts..

Having a pic of Your sign with no credit given can be a drag if you would like to have your name on it.

But far far worse is if you do not want EVERYONE IN THE WORLD to know you have a certain piece, to have your name connected to the pic without permission.

So I think that the photo credit issue should be dealt with securely before publishing.

If you only take photos they get around a bit less, IMO..

Wow! What a great country we live in.The fact that this subject can receive this much attention blows my mind. No wonder we can't agree on anything like politic's or religion.

i I do understand that "property of" means nothing on these items, just trying to say at one time they did. I think some of these corporations would, and do pay a hefty price to have some of there memorabilia back to show the history of there company. Lord only knows that when these advertising items were produced, little did they know that one day they would be fetching big bucks. Most are not even in business any more. The world of advertising is a great hobby to a "great majority" of us who enjoy bringing the past to present, but to others, we all know it is "strictly buiness". EGO, you got that right. We all want that rare piece that most people have never seen. What good is all these treasures to us that we possess if we dont't want the world to see. I for one have learned a great many things from these advertising books, my hats off to them. After-all, YOU sure can't take them with you...

Sodamamak,
My wife says when I die, she won't have to buy a COFFIN. She will have me buried in one of my smelly old stinking gas pumps, that never got restored or pictured in a book!!
LOL
db

ROGER THAT DB. I perfer to be incinerated on top of my 1895 John Wayne stage-coach..
LOL..............

This has got kind of morbid. I'm thinking
of a custom made 6 or 7 color porcelain
tombstone for myself. Not anytime soon!
Would have to be secure or some kid with a crowbar will have me hanging on the wall.

Dick, your wife could build a coffin out of 36b tops (wonder where she could find some....)

Tom,
She ain't stupid ! She will use a SMELLY STINKY gaspump full of spiders & dirt, then before all the dirt is on top of me. She will sell MY collection of stuff & take the trips WE never took !
LOL
db