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Sat Dec 08 2012 02:58 AM
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Are you talking about the guy who sold it, the bidders, or people who follow what others buy and sale? Did the guy who listed it sale it too cheap, or did the bidder pay to much? Really, what is your point?
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Can looks real, but i dont buy cans. Real or fake?
see me at Mason Dixon Gas, Spring Carlisle M114-115, and Hershey C4E-35.
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The can is clearly a fake...
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It looks to me like it could be a new label wrapped on an old can? I was duped recently on a Mobil can made in the same fashion. It looked good in the pics as none were close up, but when I received it I knew right away it was fake. I emailed the seller that this age of can would certainly have been lithographed tin, not a paper label. I was able to return it for a full refund, luckily. The Mobil can was a VERY well done fake, and I'm sure it would have fooled any new collector. The biggest mistake I see with this Texaco can is the modern fonts used on the back of the can, and I can see what appears to be a wrap line in the close-up photo of the can's bottom. And while I'm certainly not a Texaco expert, I've never seen any of these early green style cans that weren't lithographed tin. Darin
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He sold this can which is probably an original right at the same time. I'm betting this guy (seller) is the one who made this other can with a label. That can looks like a 60's wax can, clearly Texaco never made a green can like that. Along with the colors being comet green. LOL
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-ORIGINAL-TEXACO-OIL-CAN-/121031765742?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&nma=true&si=8m66aNPEnqN3s6T93O866hR%2FMC4%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
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How can you guys tell that is a paper label and not litho? If you look at this picture. The way the color follows the embossment and the small dent in the upper right corner, a paper label would not do this like this. Just a thought. I have no idea if this is real or not.
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Look at the bottom edge of the can....clearly a paper label with some fake grease around the edges.
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Here's the image you must be talking about. Again, I know nothing about this stuff and am just trying to learn. But, I aint seeing it Lyod. This is paper your all saying? It even has a glare to it like paint. Doesn't it? Just seems to me that ink on paper wouldn't look like that.
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You'd be surprised what you can do w/ the new thin Vinyl label material that HAS been used by other Fake can makers. Some high $$$ collectors have been fooled TILL THEY Received the cans.
W/ Vinyl wraps, use the fingernail to test if label is Soft. W/ mine you can see a DATE Clearly printed on simulated seam. Photo paper is easy to tell, Start/Stop of label. Mass produced cans [Most vendors sell them] have Short Thin Paper Labels [1/16"-1/8" Gap @ top/bottom.
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The thing I notice on the supposed pressure point is how the black lines are still nice and dark, while the green has been "rubbed off with use". Seems to me it would be uniformly worn, no matter what the color is.
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They never put penatating oils in the logo. LMAO
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Seller has three previous negative feedback for selling fake German world war II items. Another outstanding e-Bay seller and a shinning example of how e-Bay empowers these fools!
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Dave & others …
Why are you folks so surprised that an item bring so much money on eBay? Isn't eBay worldwide?
In my opinion, it is up to Bidders to decide to bid on an item. If a bidder thinks he/she got to have that item for that price, so be it. We all know: “KNOWLEDGE is POWER”.
In my case, I only buy signs at local bashes where I can find:
1- Real signs – Got to pay high $$$ to get that Wanted_Sign_by_Everyone. I buy to enjoy as a collector not to sell for profit. No room for that these days! 2-Repro or Fantasy signs providing prices are reasonable. Example: I paid $300 for REPRO PowerLube. What if a seller had a $1200 price tag on that? Yes, I would have walked away! But then again, it is who you know or associate. Jack (a good veteran collector) was nice enough to be honest & let me have it for that great price!
I am enjoying the sign & one day I will REPLACE it with the REAL one. I believe Patience is KEY to collecting!
Enough said …
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I have a problem when a seller like this gentleman has an original can. Scans the graphics and places them on a fantasy item and then sells it as an original. That is criminal, unethical, selfish, serve serving behavior and conduct that has much more far fetching implications then this just one transaction.
The person that won that can believes it to be real and paid the amount that a real can sells for. In the future it will probably be sold as a real can and before you know it has has 20-30 years of history of it being in collections...by now even you must be seeing the false provenance.
To simply say that; power is knowledge and that buyer's do your homework is down playing the danger of these kind of sellers...not to mention; that it still does not excuse or make right what they are doing to others or the hobby in general. Everyone should have the right to be able to trade and collect safely.
That, is my beef with these sellers. Simply put I HATE liars, cheats and thieves. The world would be a better place without them. I will always vocally oppose them and their actions. Rather then except them as a normal by-product of human evolution.
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I wish there was a way to send a link of this thread to the buyer.
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I wish there was a way to send a link of this thread to the buyer. See if he leaves feedback in a few weeks and then contact him...
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