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#389711 - Mon Jan 28 2013 05:46 PM colors for painting or powder coating
oldz70 Offline
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Registered: Sun Sep 30 2012
Loc: florida
hello all;
where can i find info on correct colors? i don't have anything to restore but maybe an ECO meter and want to do it in either sunoco or gulf colors. i prefer powder coating and want the color to be as exact as possible.

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#389742 - Mon Jan 28 2013 07:37 PM Re: colors for painting or powder coating [Re: oldz70]
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#389825 - Tue Jan 29 2013 06:32 AM Re: colors for painting or powder coating [Re: Dick Bennett]
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i saw that but i don't want to buy the book because i don't have anything else to restore but the meter.

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#389908 - Tue Jan 29 2013 12:57 PM Re: colors for painting or powder coating [Re: Dick Bennett]
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Registered: Fri Jun 11 2004
Loc: Chicago, IL
How come the site never assembled a list of colors?

While you are correct about color matching a globe, sign or decal, the paint color number thing comes up way too often. Can a list be assembled and posted for those that want to ignore the warning?

Maybe its just one of those things that would be debated too much.
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#389920 - Tue Jan 29 2013 02:27 PM Re: colors for painting or powder coating [Re: PLUM_72]
oldz70 Offline
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Registered: Sun Sep 30 2012
Loc: florida
not only colors, but where to get them, paint codes. what about powder coating? how is that matched?
where you from dave? i mean area? i used to go to the coin op shows and peotone alot while living in aurora.

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#389940 - Tue Jan 29 2013 04:15 PM Re: colors for painting or powder coating [Re: oldz70]
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Registered: Tue Jul 25 2000
Loc: South of St. Louis, MO USA
I have been matching colors and painting automotive for over 40 years. As paint technology and EPA requirements have changed, the color components of paint have changed. The old formulas just don't translate well to modern paint chemistry. It is guesswork. If you can find a chip in an old fleet color book or an old polished sign, a good auto paint supplier can find a close modern formula and adjust it to match what you need. They often have computer scanners to approximate the formula or just do it by eye.

Even with today's technology, new cars of the same color code don't precisely match each other. Much of the paint work done in body shops has to be adjusted by adding or leaving out toners. No reason to think that Gulf's paint suppliers all matched one another over the years either.

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#389947 - Tue Jan 29 2013 04:47 PM Re: colors for painting or powder coating [Re: Oldgas]
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well i did a search and came up with nothing.

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#390005 - Tue Jan 29 2013 07:14 PM Re: colors for painting or powder coating [Re: oldz70]
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Using Original color codes is only good if your using Original signs/decals.
New Repop signs/decals DO NOT match original Paint Codes.
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#390048 - Tue Jan 29 2013 10:17 PM Re: colors for painting or powder coating [Re: Dick Bennett]
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Registered: Fri Jun 11 2004
Loc: Chicago, IL
Years ago I found some Ditzler (PPG) fleet color codes on the web. I have no idea of their accuracy. Here is what I have for Gulf:
Blue = 10656
Blue = 12149
Blue = 11608
New Blue = 11936
Gulf Crest Purple = 50533
Orange = 60233
White = 8000

Sunoco:
1959 Blue = 12302
1959 Yellow = 81229
Yellow = 80248

As was said prior, match the color to a sign, glode or something. I have no idea of the accuacy of these numbers nor the year, so use with caution, but enjoy!
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#390054 - Tue Jan 29 2013 11:09 PM Re: colors for painting or powder coating [Re: PLUM_72]
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Registered: Fri Nov 10 2000
Loc: St. Louis, MO, USA
Years ago I searched for "original" Texaco colors. Went through one of the old paint books, they listed:

East coast red
West coast red
Inside red
Outside red
Truck red
and so on.

Which one is original?

Jack Sim


Edited by Jack Sim (Tue Jan 29 2013 11:10 PM)
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#390080 - Wed Jan 30 2013 05:32 AM Re: colors for painting or powder coating [Re: Jack Sim]
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Registered: Mon Feb 24 2003
Loc: Severn, Maryland USA
In twenty years of restoring pumps, airmeters etc. I've developed colors that work for me. It was done, as said before many times, by matching color charts with decals, globes, signs.....It has taken years and many miles.....My answer, to this question, is to find a color that you like and use it. Life is way too short to waste on such an issue. My opinion as always. Paul www.severngaspumps.com by the way.....we do not share color codes with the public so please do not ask....

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