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#40414 Thu Apr 07 2005 06:46 PM
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Can anyone identify this airplane fueling up with Seaside in Santa Barbara Calfornia?



Note the Seaside triangle sign and the pull tanker.

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Sprit of Saint Louie ?

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Well tell that guy to move and take that trailer with him so I can see it!!!!


I honestly couldn't tell you. I've never seen one quite like that.

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I've got to say no, Dick. It looks a lot like the Spirit of St Louis, but if you notice, this airplane has a windshield. The "Spirit" did not, because of its large fuel tank. And it was fueled with Chevron fuel.... Ask me how I know that!!!

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How do you know that?


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Because in August.... I will be doing the C.O.T.M. and it will be Chevron.....


Cool Huh?


in case you cared....

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Well according to my very reliable source Mr. Bennett is correct. So apparently before they got the Chevron sponsorship they tried out Seaside. The plane was built by the Ryan Company in San Diego and made a flight to Santa Barbara. Don't know if this was before or after the trans Atlantic flight. The plane was probably re-fitted for the flight and thus the differences in the windshield and some of the other details.

Here is a photo of the Spirit of St. Louis.



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I got a pic of that plane getting fueled with Imperial oil in Northern Canada..it is in an Imperial Oil newsletter.

I also have a French magazine from 1911 or 13. A weekly, whole years worth bound into a book. In there are shots of fabric planes getting fueled in fields with huge piles of gargoyle square cans beside them!! Also Gargoyle ads in them books...

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Apparently they didn't care whose gas they used.

Where's the brand loyalty?


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You had to take what you could get especially in isolated areas. I think they made fuel caches that the pilot would then have to find and land near.
Must have been a real adventure in them days.. Imperial was pumped to be chosen by Col Lindberg..

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I have the original St. Louis newspaper, with the headline: Lindbergh Lands In Paris. I pull it out and see if the plane has any markings on it.
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I agree it looks similiar to the Spirit, but I just can't see it well enough to judge. Any chance of posting a larger pic?

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The plane boss, the plane....

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It appears to be similar but I am quite certain that it is not the same airplane. The curvature and length of the wing is much greater on the Spirit also the under wing supports form a v shape on this plane. On the Spirit the inside support is shorter than the outside on resulting a lopsided v shape. The shape of the vertical stabilizer is also different. Probably the same manufacturer but different airplanes.The configuration of the side windows is also different. There are also numbers on the underside of the wing ending in "4".


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It is a Ryan Brougham. Check out this web site.
http://www.ivyandmartin.demon.co.uk/v_ryanb.htm

It was the same basic air plane as the Spirit of St Louis but with out the large gas tank behind the engine.

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