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Re: Cities Service clock?? [Re: Terry Flannery] #406856
Tue Apr 02 2013 07:16 PM
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Re: Cities Service clock?? [Re: vert1] #406861
Tue Apr 02 2013 07:28 PM
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Devils Lake, ND---USA
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No, I haven't bought it yet. The owner asked me for a valuation and we had a long discussion on the originality of this clock. One has to be very careful with clocks, because of the proliferation of fakes! I told him I was interested in purchasing it, but he doesn't feel comfortable yet to price it.
I would feel better also if I knew the whole story on it. I've sent a lot of pictures out and maybe some of the clock people I have sent them to will shed more light.
I think Daryl probably had the best suggestion, but not sure I can get the owner to test the face that way! We'll see what happens the next few days!


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Re: Cities Service clock?? [Re: K W FRITH] #406905
Wed Apr 03 2013 05:32 AM
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Not a commonly repopped sized glass. On the other hand, it does look like a Postal Telegraph and I havent seen any of those with advertising -other than "Postal Telegraph". Not that that means much. This being an earlier electric clock, I'd think that there would be an identifying name or mark on the ad glass, as manufacturers were proud of their work back in the day. Also, with a company as big as Cities was, youd think there would have been a number of them made. Also, if it was a one off, I'd think that it would have the station owners name or address on it. I would like it to be original for you, cuz its a cool looking clock. Shame what has happened to these backlit ad clocks. There is a discussion in another forum going on right now about unmarked repops....

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Re: Cities Service clock?? [Re: minuteman] #406940
Wed Apr 03 2013 09:18 AM
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That looks to be a Gill Clock made in Philadelphia [would be present on rear case label] They are rare and are advertising clocks. I have never seen this lens before. I would recommend comparing the reverse side of the glass to a Gill globe lens. Should be same MFG process. Hands are correct style [paint?]for the clock and motor looks to be original

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Re: Cities Service clock?? [Re: BryceG] #407014
Wed Apr 03 2013 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: baileybee
i like it! but I would be sure to check that inner ad glass real close, looks real nice.

does the backside of the inner glass feel smooth, or does it feel chalky? It should feel chalky because it is lead-based paint. All of the authentic pam clocks I have had or seen, you couldn't hardly feel the lettering from the backside and it felt like a used chalkboard sort of.

you could also lead test the back, but thats a bit more invasive.

i have seen less authentic cities service clocks than the fingers on my hands, so good luck - proceed with caution. to me it kind of looks like a Postal Telegraph Clock. I have one at home, whats the dimensions?


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You should be able to feel the back of the glass through the back access holes shouldn't you ?

Doug

Re: Cities Service clock?? [Re: blacktee] #407090
Thu Apr 04 2013 12:33 AM
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Condition of glass face doesn't appear to match the rest of the clock.


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Re: Cities Service clock?? [Re: Dave's Garage] #407109
Thu Apr 04 2013 04:50 AM
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Cataula, Georgia, USA
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The saga of the Cities Service clock continues...
If you could examine the clock...I believe that you would know.Dave


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Re: Cities Service clock?? [Re: Catauladave] #407156
Thu Apr 04 2013 09:30 AM
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Antioch,IL
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well,ive been trying to research this a bit,and i think it may be real.the clock itself definatly looks to be a gill glass co,or gillco clock.have found several images on the web to compare to.(although i left my ipad up at the cabin,and refuse to go to imageshack on my pc to upload them).i had never heard of them before.i agree with the fact that its not a popular size.also,being as it was made by gill,it would have been made in the same way as a globe lens,and fired on,which could explain the condition of the face.although i have been playing with clocks for a few years now,i realize i am far from being an expert,and that several on here know more than i do.we all know that without holding it in person,and looking firsthand that its easy to be fooled.but i have asked others that havent posted,and between those answers and the research i was able to do,i really think its an original clock. mick


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Re: Cities Service clock?? [Re: Terry Flannery] #407176
Thu Apr 04 2013 01:10 PM
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Im with dave the clock body shows obvious wear. Small dents maybe and light rust. But the face and the hands are perfect. Looks suspect. But a cool
Peice for sure. Its also a little to clean on the inside.


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Re: Cities Service clock?? [Re: Rust and Dust] #407190
Thu Apr 04 2013 02:11 PM
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Fredericktown Missouri
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Kevin I can't offer much input but that is a nice looking clock and needs to be on one of your shop walls , I like it , sharp! Nice discovery.


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Re: Cities Service clock?? [Re: 47reo-travis] #407283
Fri Apr 05 2013 12:25 AM
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Is this the clock now on ebay #290892566245 Mitch

Re: Cities Service clock?? [Re: 67Chev4X4] #407294
Fri Apr 05 2013 04:41 AM
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Sure is!


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Re: Cities Service clock?? [Re: oldnfuelish] #407295
Fri Apr 05 2013 04:48 AM
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Peoria, IL
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starting bid of 250, and then also a reserve... wonder how high he's expecting it to go? My guess is 450-550


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Re: Cities Service clock?? [Re: BryceG] #407334
Fri Apr 05 2013 09:25 AM
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eBay listing has ended.


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Re: Cities Service clock?? [Re: wfort39663] #407336
Fri Apr 05 2013 09:42 AM
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Peoria, IL
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haha... very stereotypical series of events


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