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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #408627
Thu Apr 11 2013 06:20 AM
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The "Short Bell" indicator was used by more than one company.

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #408640
Thu Apr 11 2013 06:55 AM
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A few companies used markers that did not have the traditional indicators that could be adjusted by sliding them up or down on a rod or bar.

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #408700
Thu Apr 11 2013 11:04 AM
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I am down to the last company, Gilbert and Barker. I've already shown some pictures of sales literature as well as some photos and an appeal for input. Unfortunately there was no input and I do not know for sure what was used when, and on what model. Following are a total of 9 photos to help you. These are the models that need to be identified:

67 - 10 Gallon - Possibly Identified
T-176 1925 Version 1
T-176 Square Version
T-176 1926 Version 2
T-176 1928 Version 3
T-177 1925 Adj. Stops
T-178 1926
T-179 1927 Mechanical Measure

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #408702
Thu Apr 11 2013 11:05 AM
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More potential G&B indicators.

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #408704
Thu Apr 11 2013 11:07 AM
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Did G&B used painted and raised numbers? Any particular models or year?

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #408749
Thu Apr 11 2013 02:53 PM
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Tim,here's a couple photos of gallon markers on a Dayton 300. I'll try to get some better shots in the near future.

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Jim O] #408757
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Thanks Jim. I guess I wasn't expecting an etched cylinder. Good Photo. It appears the pump has the same markers as used on the Dayton 100.

Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #408868
Fri Apr 12 2013 05:04 AM
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Wayne Boyle/Dayton alongside a Keesee.

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #409656
Mon Apr 15 2013 09:28 AM
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I thought G&B would be one of the easiest indicators to define but have found it to be the most difficult. They used quite a variety of shapes and styles and I see the same kind in a lot of different models. I know that jobbers, owners and restorers alike, would often use whatever is at hand, but G&B seems to be the worst at trying to determine any kind of consistency. This even applies when looking at old photos, sales literature and pumps that look "original".

I'll throw this theory on the wall and see if it sticks. When G&B came out with a new model they would also come out with a new indicator style. Not only the new model would have the new Indicator style but all other models in production would have the new indicators installed as soon as there existing inventory had depleted.

Now the challenge: Using the number under the indicators in the picture below, place them in order from oldest to newest. Example: ( 1,2,5,6,4,3)

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #410617
Fri Apr 19 2013 07:07 AM
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I was finally able to obtain a clear photo of the back of a rivetless shield indicator showing it's mounting method.

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #412723
Sun Apr 28 2013 09:03 AM
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I spotted this nice Martin & Schwartz F100 visible at the Pate swap meet with the shield shaped indicators

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #413515
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I bought M & S visible above, anyone know it that is the right top and #'s??

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #424756
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In reply #406752 I indicated that Western Visible probably used an etched cylinder. In further research I found they used "Decalcomania", which is a fancy french word for a decal.

Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #580747
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Killer reference thread.. Thanks all for the contributions.

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