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Red Indian Repro (Stencilwork) VS Red Indian Orig. #422915
Sat Jun 15 2013 01:10 PM
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The repro porcelain jar rack sign that Stencilwork makes would be hard to tell from an original UNLESS you have an original to compare to....then it is easy to spot the fake if side by side....I have pictures of both here for future reference as I'm sure there will be more coming in the future....the lettering and color are off quite a bit...the S in oils seems to be a problem with the repop as it intersects with the diagonal line...last but not least the original is ink marked "The W. F. Vilas Co. Ltd."
in bottom right corner.

orig red ind (Small).jpg
Original sign

repop red ind close (Small).jpg
Stencilwork repop


Wanted early tin litho signage.
petro, farm, auto, etc.
Re: Red Indian Repro (Stencilwork) VS Red Indian Orig. [Re: minuteman] #422928
Sat Jun 15 2013 02:45 PM
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Do you have a picture of the back of the reproduction?

Re: Red Indian Repro (Stencilwork) VS Red Indian Orig. [Re: Curtisstewart] #422931
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Im sure "stencilwork" watches this site......


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Re: Red Indian Repro (Stencilwork) VS Red Indian Orig. [Re: Curtisstewart] #422948
Sat Jun 15 2013 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: Curtisstewart
Do you have a picture of the back of the reproduction?


No i dont as i never bought one, but then you wouldnt hang it with the back facing out would you? lol
You have what you need to tell the difference, i dont see what difference the back makes thats all...mm


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petro, farm, auto, etc.
Re: Red Indian Repro (Stencilwork) VS Red Indian Orig. [Re: 57tbirdkid] #422950
Sat Jun 15 2013 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: 57tbirdkid
Im sure "stencilwork" watches this site......


Your point is? Are we better off with buyer beware and I take it off here, cause I can if you like....as I know the difference, just trying to help out the uneducated...mm


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petro, farm, auto, etc.
Re: Red Indian Repro (Stencilwork) VS Red Indian Orig. [Re: minuteman] #422952
Sat Jun 15 2013 04:37 PM
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Very good info. This should also be in the Unmarked Reproduction and Fantasy Petro Photo Album. Maybe one of the moderators can place it there as well? Cheers, Don.

Re: Red Indian Repro (Stencilwork) VS Red Indian Orig. [Re: coopersplace] #422961
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Kim nothing agaianst you..education is important in the right hands...but if they are wacthing,..educating the repro people only helps improve the product.


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Re: Red Indian Repro (Stencilwork) VS Red Indian Orig. [Re: 57tbirdkid] #423565
Mon Jun 17 2013 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: 57tbirdkid
Kim nothing agaianst you..education is important in the right hands...but if they are wacthing,..educating the repro people only helps improve the product.


thats true.... but he must have had an original picture to start with i would think....time put into quality just isnt there, or perhaps close is good enough to fool most without exerting too much effort....mm


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Re: Red Indian Repro (Stencilwork) VS Red Indian Orig. [Re: minuteman] #423654
Tue Jun 18 2013 11:54 AM
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Thanks for posting this Kim!


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Re: Red Indian Repro (Stencilwork) VS Red Indian Orig. [Re: K W FRITH] #423665
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Clearly the best way to sale reproduction signs is to list them for sale from India. Those eBay sellers in India are like Elliott Ness in The Untouchables!

Re: Red Indian Repro (Stencilwork) VS Red Indian Orig. [Re: Jerry Westfield] #423729
Tue Jun 18 2013 07:21 PM
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IMO you are doing the right thing MM. We need to get this information into the hands and minds of the potential buyers. Informed people are wise buyers. Wise, informed buyers is what is going to hurt these forgers.

They could make all the signs they want overseas. That won't make them money. They make money when the local crooks buy them and then turn around and sell them locally to unsuspecting buyers. We need to own the problem and lay the blame where it belongs. It's the local crooks that are the greater problem and the root of this threat. I would imagine the local crooks are the ones providing them with details of what signs to reproduce.


Dave GILL,
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Re: Red Indian Repro (Stencilwork) VS Red Indian Orig. [Re: Dave's Garage] #423800
Wed Jun 19 2013 06:47 AM
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Right on the money Dave!


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Re: Red Indian Repro (Stencilwork) VS Red Indian Orig. [Re: minuteman] #424704
Sun Jun 23 2013 06:03 AM
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What about these Kim,,,, think they are repro,??,, no name on them.. might even be the one you bought from me,,,
Then there is always these rack signs, what do you think of these Kim,,, no name on any of these,,, how about where the "S" in Oils is,,, shall I go on and on, I have owned approx. a dozen of them either in oil racks or single pieces,,, I have more of them you want to see more,,

IMG_4826.jpgIMG_4835.jpgside four (2).JPGside three (2).JPG
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Re: Red Indian Repro (Stencilwork) VS Red Indian Orig. [Re: K W FRITH] #424730
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Here are a couple of other rack signs, no makers name on them either,,

Red Indian aviation rack sign sold $1100.jpgRed Indian double sided oil rack sign sold $1340.JPG

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Re: Red Indian Repro (Stencilwork) VS Red Indian Orig. [Re: Dave's Garage] #424733
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Here are some more RI signs, no makers name on them, these are all signs I have owned and sold,,

26x72,bid to $5700US SOLD.jpgside two.JPG
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