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But, on the other 15" sign that was just like it a member said that the black outline is not supposed to go under the green T . I think someone said the date should not be on it .Did we get someone elses sign kicked off unfairly ? When I asked about it Ddkinsey sent me a message and said it was a pump sign that Texaco never made .I am a little confused here .How is one sign authentic when it has the exact thing ( black outline under the green T )that a member cited as the reason the other one was fake? Either the black outline can be under the green T ,or it can't .Either this sign is fake ,or the person who posted about the black outline going under the green T did not know what they were talking about .

Did you see the "Rare" Invader tacker sign for $2K Buy It Now? The sign is riddled with cracked, chipped and peeling paint. There's more crack on that sign than the streets of Detroit!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Early-I...=item3f26095f97

Is it fake? It has the black outline all the way under the green T .It is dated 3-30 .A lot of people jumped on a Texaco 15" that was almost like this one not long ago .Why is no one jumping on this one .Is anyone sure that it's fake ? Is anyone sure that it's real . Is anyone besides me willing to admit that they just don't know .

It's an original. It's WAY over priced (you can pick up a near mint one for around $300).

The back of the sign tells the whole story.

Did you see the "Rare" Invader tacker sign for $2K Buy It Now? The sign is riddled with cracked, chipped and peeling paint. There's more crack on that sign than the streets of Detroit!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Early-I...=item3f26095f97

Whats up with selling all the reproductions as originals redhotrelics? Look in his completed items and feedback and see for yourself...
redhotrelics completed listings
reproduction OK sign you sold for $540
$540 repo OK sign

Repo Pennzoil
Plus several other VERY questionable signs...

Whats up with selling all the reproductions as originals redhotrelics? Look in his completed items and feedback and see for yourself...
redhotrelics completed listings
reproduction OK sign you sold for $540
$540 repo OK sign

Repo Pennzoil
Plus several other VERY questionable signs...

REFUND their money! If you really truly are down with doing what is right, REFUND THEM! Then do your homework BEFORE you sell bogus items next time...problem solved...

Ok, redhot since you jumped in .Do you admit that you have sold reproductions in the past unknown ,or known to you at the time that you sold them ? Are you saying that you have no reproductions on Ebay right now ? The main reason I question the 15" Texaco is because you are the seller .I have been watching your items for a long time.If you are the reasonable person that you are holding yourself out to be( and by the polite and gentle tone of your responses I believe that you are).You will at least admit that you have sold many questionable signs in the past .If you only sell authentic signs I will become your biggest defender .So convince me that you will only sell authentic signs in the future .

I am no expert on any sign ,but all I can say is that I have looked all over google .I have searched books,past sales on Ebay .I have asked numerous collectors .I have never seen an authentic 15" Texaco where the Black outline goes under the green T .I have never seen an authentic 15" sign without the red triangle in the A .The Graphics on your sign are exactly like the ones that were being sold on Ebay not long ago,right down to the date .The only difference is that the mounting holes are rotated.It is ironic that people on here were commenting about the bolt holes being wrong and the back being too shiny on the other signs .And Lo and Behold a 15" Texaco with the exact grapics (down to the most minute detail)shows up on Ebay .In almost mint condition -no less .With the bolt holes rotated,and minus the glossy back .But still the red triangle is missing .Lets just say I wanted to copy someones sign ,and fix the mistakes someone else made .I would just simply buy a mint condition fake sign .I would then have high quality photos made of the fake sign.The things I could not fix would be the graphics ,because they would be photos .Now I could pay a graphic artist to remove the offending lines from under the green T,but that would cost a lot of money .I would just figure people are probably too stupid to figure it out ,since my sign would fool almost everyone .Everyone except someone who has an inquisitive mind ,and would do hours and hours of research anyway . So just let me say congratulations to you You really do have something rare -the only one exactly like this that has can be found anywhere-and in almost mint condition.

Redhotrelics,
I do appreciate your honesty and your attempt to make things right! We are all watching...
One thing you will learn in this hobby, Your word is all you got!
Lastly I didnt wanna comment on the 15 inch texaco because I didnt know for sure...I knew for sure on the repo OK and pennzoil signs!
Texacopumpdog, why are you climbing into every conversation without a clue?

I got a bunch for ya, Rick! pretty sure they are original!

I started this conversation .I did not climb in as you say .And I did the research to prove my point .No one was willing to state that this sign is fake ,until I laid out what I think is wrong with it .He pulled the sign .if it was real wouldn't it be worth fighting for? Some folks say signs are fake without any reason .I have never said it was fake .Tomcollectiblez ,I get in conversations because I am looking for the truth .Tankar ,thank you .You are the first one to call the sign fake .Some people just think they can say whatever they want without the facts to back it up .If someone says a sign is fake I want to know why .If they say it's real i want to know why .And ."I been collecting 35 years" doe's not explain how one knows something .

could someone please post the steps on how you can ignore someones post on here so they never show that members posts or comments?? i think im going to need it. thanks chris

You must have not understood what I said about the holes .I know that 15" texaco signs came with the regular 12,3,6,9,pattern for the pumps.I know they came with the 2,4,8,10 pattern for the lubester . The thing is almost everyone thinks they only came with the 2,4,8,10 o'clock pattern . I was simply saying that the repopper who made the first sign read what someone said about the holes being in the wrong position on the first version .Then on the second version they made what they thought was an improvement by cutting the holes in the 2,4,8,10 positions.I did not mean that Redhot moved the holes on the sign that he already had .As a matter of fact I never said Redhot did anything wrong at all .He may have been unaware that the sign was a reproduction . I have nothing against Redhot at all .As a matter of fact he seems like a real nice person .It was the sign that I was attacking .I only gave him my opinion because he asked for it .

My rule is texaco 15inchers should not be dated and should have REG. U.S. PAT. OFF. Not REG. T.M. Dates come on smaller ones. Look in some of the books about porcelain signs. I'll say it again, I'm not an expert but I have done the research and have found this to be true for many years. 15 inch texacos have been reproduced recently, I would bet that the dated ones are done that way to make the unaware buyer think they are old.

Well Redhot, I am not a professional appraiser .But since you asked I will give you my opinion .I think your sign is a 100% reproduction .I think that someone copied the other 15" sign ,rotated the holes ,and made the back less glossy .I think your sign is missing the red triangle because it is a copy of the fake .I think it has the REG. T.M. because it is a copy of the fake .I think it has the date 3-30 because it is a copy of a fake .I think that someone saw what was being said about what was wrong with the other sign on here .I think that someone tried to improve on the other fake sign .

Jamie ,I know that you know a lot about signs ,but you will never see an original like this one .It is just this simple -he has the only one .It does not have the triangle in the A .It has a black outline under the T .No one has ever put an authentic one like this in a book .There are zero real ones on google .Google has the most comprehensive photo collection on earth .If there were real ones someone, somewhere ,would have taken a photo .I did not say the sign is fake .I said I think that the sign is fake .I laid out the reasons I think the sign is fake .I responded to a person who sells questionable signs as a matter of course .Also I know about the different holes for the pumps .I would have mentioned that I saw both hole patterns in a book .But ,if I had ,someone would have said I was wrong .

I started this conversation .I did not climb in as you say .And I did the research to prove my point .No one was willing to state that this sign is fake ,until I laid out what I think is wrong with it .He pulled the sign .if it was real wouldn't it be worth fighting for? Some folks say signs are fake without any reason .I have never said it was fake .Tomcollectiblez ,I get in conversations because I am looking for the truth .Tankar ,thank you .You are the first one to call the sign fake .Some people just think they can say whatever they want without the facts to back it up .If someone says a sign is fake I want to know why .If they say it's real i want to know why .And ."I been collecting 35 years" doe's not explain how one knows something .

Could we see a photo of the one from New hampshire please.