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Dick Bennett #427455 Wed Jul 03 2013 04:21 PM
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I kinda figured the knowledge GURU would have the answer!


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Originally Posted By: gulfiend!
...I don't think that 'O' is put on wrong, as it has the same proportions as the 'C'...I think that's from the back of the tanker truck - maybe had a small 'Tour With' above 'TEXACO'?


Sorry to disagree, but the "O" in that configuration of letters is to be hung so that it is oval shaped running east to west and not north and south. That confirms it for me that this piece is not an original, even though the letters are original.


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I really need help here, I clicked on both attachments above and nothing came up, is it this site, or is it my computer?

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Still working for me, must be something on your end Jack.

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Good buy. The figure is worth more than that in condition. Sign is a freebie

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The letter "O" looks right to me. The inner configuration is the same as the letter "C" mounted that way.


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Yep, they look the same that way, but if you look in any Texaco collectibles book, you will see it is supposed to go the other way. Not look like the other letters.


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Alex is correct about the mounting of the letter "O". Besides the "O", I don't like how the "E" looks. The lower part of "E" is longer than the top part. I haven't seen a set of Texaco letters like that before.

Here's a picture of my 8" letters. I believe 8" was the smallest size Texaco used in this style. 5" letters look like the set I have posted below the 8".






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Cool animated sign. Perhaps an enterprising station owner picked one of these up and added the letters? Regardless, the eclectic nature of the figure itself would draw many non-petro collectors.




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Originally Posted By: J.E.Radebaugh
Alex is correct


Now there is something I don't hear very often. I even showed it to my wife...LOL


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I'm glad I could help..LOL



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Originally Posted By: J.E.Radebaugh
I'm glad I could help..LOL

Yeah, but now your credibility and judgment are in question...LOL


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Originally Posted By: gulfiend!
...I don't think that 'O' is put on wrong, as it has the same proportions as the 'C'...I think that's from the back of the tanker truck - maybe had a small 'Tour With' above 'TEXACO'?

Originally Posted By: Alex
Sorry to disagree, but the "O" in that configuration of letters is to be hung so that it is oval shaped running east to west and not north and south. That confirms it for me that this piece is not an original, even though the letters are original.


...OK...I'm not a Texaco expert...but I must disagree...these letters are much more condensed than the more familiar, wide letters in J. E.'s post...

...THESE letters (in THIS case) are oriented correctly - even if they are arranged vertically, instead of horizontally...please review the attached photo:



...I have taken the letters and reoriented them to read horizontally...they get a little smaller left to right - because the original photo was taken looking slightly down on the sign, they will appear smaller because of perspective...

...now - you'll notice that the holes are all on the top and bottom of each letter...

...below, enlarged, are the C and O as they originally appear, and also, with the O turned 'east-west'...

...note, that if you turn that O in that manner, the holes no longer line up, and the letter is much shorter than its counterparts...

...if that O was meant to be hung 'east-west', logic demands that the mounting holes would line up with the rest of the letters...as they do not, the most likely explanation is that the O was designed to be used 'north-south'...

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You are incorrect. If I understand what you have done, you have digitally turned that "o" then it is now distorted. I have, over the years, purchased and removed from Texaco buildings and trucks 5 sets of these Texaco letters. The position of the "O" in Jamie's pics is correct. If the letters in your pics have not become distorted, then i would start to question the legitimacy of the letters on the original sign in question. And, based on Jamie's concerns of the letter "E", it may raise that suspicion even more.


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Originally Posted By: Alex
You are incorrect. If I understand what you have done, you have digitally turned that "o" then it is now distorted.

...Alex...if you print out the photograph I posted, cut out the letters and line them up horizontally, and then pick up the 'O' and rotate it 90 degrees, you will have done exactly what I did - the ONLY difference being that I did it digitally, in Photoshop...NOTHING has been distorted...

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The position of the "O" in Jamie's pics is correct.

...right...I never said they weren't - if you compare his letters and the ones on the figure, you might notice that they're entirely different letters!...also, you might notice that all of the mounting holes line up on them as well...

Originally Posted By: gulfiend!
...I don't think that 'O' is put on wrong, as it has the same proportions as the 'C'...I think that's from the back of the tanker truck - maybe had a small 'Tour With' above 'TEXACO'?

...you'll note that I only hypothesized that they were from the back of the tanker truck, as I didn't have pics of known examples in front of me, and that's what they reminded me of...

...as I stated, I'm not a Texaco expert, and don't claim to be...and while I believe I know a lot about Gulf memorabilia, I'll freely admit that I haven't seen everything...

...could be that these letters are just a rare variation that you haven't seen before...

...could be that these letters were used by Texaco, but not on a truck...

...could be that they are old letters, but have nothing to do with Texaco...

...could be that they're fake...

...I don't know, and it sounds as though no one who has posted to this point does either...

...but I do know one thing: there is simply no logical reason for the mounting holes on THESE letters to line up in any other way - and thus, no reason why they would be mounted in any other configuration...


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