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#430538 - Tue Jul 16 2013 02:33 PM Re: why dont people just put a price? [Re: hotrodfun1]
Alex Offline
Moderator, Value Forum

Registered: Mon Dec 08 2003
Loc: Butte, Montana USA
Originally Posted By: hotrodfun1
all I have to say is Alex is right on with what he said and when I go to a auction I don't get a price for something or on ebay do I get a set price. People ask me a price of stuff and there is a lot of people I ask for a value on something. Also, you can put a price on something all day long, but you have to have the cash buyer first. There is no bad thing with asking for an offer I have to offer most of the time anyway. Just my two cents.


Must be the way we Montanan's think..LOL
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Please use For Sale forums to sell

Please - NO offers to Buy or Sell in this forum category

Statements such as, "I'm thinking about selling this." are considered an offer to sell.
#430541 - Tue Jul 16 2013 02:49 PM Re: why dont people just put a price? [Re: hotrodfun1]
Ryan Underthun Online   content
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Registered: Thu Nov 07 2002
Loc: Duluth, MN U.S.A
Originally Posted By: hotrodfun1
all I have to say is Alex is right on with what he said and when I go to a auction I don't get a price for something or on ebay do I get a set price. People ask me a price of stuff and there is a lot of people I ask for a value on something. Also, you can put a price on something all day long, but you have to have the cash buyer first. There is no bad thing with asking for an offer I have to offer most of the time anyway. Just my two cents.


The for sale section is not called the auction or best offer section.

I can see where you guys are coming from though.
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#430543 - Tue Jul 16 2013 03:07 PM Re: why dont people just put a price? [Re: Alex]
Dick Bennett Offline
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Registered: Wed Oct 25 2000
Loc: Santa Paula, Calif
When I was looking to buy a house or pickup, I never see signs that say Make Offer or Best Offer Accepted.

On here it really is hard giving a Ball Park Estimate w/o 1 [or more] pictures. 1 chip can be a $500-$5,000+ difference on some signs/globes.

Advertising Signs, Auction sites

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#430546 - Tue Jul 16 2013 03:28 PM Re: why dont people just put a price? [Re: Dick Bennett]
Alex Offline
Moderator, Value Forum

Registered: Mon Dec 08 2003
Loc: Butte, Montana USA
This is right from the Guidlelines at the top of the For Sale Section...

Auctions must have a specific end time and any other conditions defined in the first post. (Auctions are allowed)

We recommend that items for sale are priced by the seller. The vast majority of willing buyers expect it.
(Recommended, but not required) Convince the boss to change the rules or we all need to play within them. Anyway, it makes for good discussion. we just need a few cold ones to go along with it.
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#430550 - Tue Jul 16 2013 03:49 PM Re: why dont people just put a price? [Re: Alex]
Dick Bennett Offline
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Registered: Wed Oct 25 2000
Loc: Santa Paula, Calif
It's a No Win situation, no matter how many times WE Discuss it or have another Poll.

For MANY Years the Government Supported Smoking [& still subsidizes farmers that grow tobacco], BUT yet the Government is spending Billions on Anti-Smoking!

I vote that No Item maybe posted in the For Sale Forum w/o a picture & a price, UH-less it is an auction.

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#430557 - Tue Jul 16 2013 04:49 PM Re: why dont people just put a price? [Re: Dick Bennett]
tomzcollectiblez Offline
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Registered: Sun Feb 26 2006
Loc: La Porte, In
People are making fake accounts and selling...People are also selling signs that belong to others with and without permission! LOL
I agree with Dick! No items should be posted without a price, picture, and ONLY by verified members! smile

Here are the rules from the antique radio forum!
The for sale section works Great!
Forum rules

The following requirements must be followed when advertising personal antique radio / TV / audio / phono items (such as discussed in the forums here) for sale in the classifieds forum::


Titles must START with : FS (for sale) or WTB (want to buy) or Trade or Free at the beginning of the title..

FS posts must have an "asking" price and offers may be sent by PM. Are you parting something out? ... price each major part (not things like screws and nuts)

There must be a location somewhere in the ad or the members profile (City & State or Zip Code are the minimum requirement).

Ads are limited to two per day, and may not be bumped sooner than 7 days after the last post to the thread.

No outside sales links are allowed other than to pictures of actual items being sold. No links allowed to eBay, Craigslist etc.

This is NOT a discussion forum. If you're not buying or supplying or suggesting a relevant solution, don't post - send a Private Message. Comments on pricing will be deleted.

First to post to an item for sale stating "I WILL TAKE IT" it is first in line. Subsequent claims will be followed in the order they are posted. Claims to "Take it" can be conditional on unknowns such as shipping costs.

Any "PM sent" posts without posting a reason for the PM will be deleted as they are meaningless to anyone else reading the thread.

Once a deal is made, edit the title to say so and the thread will be locked

If your thread or post disappears - read the rules again - no warnings or explanations will be given when threads or posts are deleted.




Edited by tomzcollectiblez (Tue Jul 16 2013 04:53 PM)

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#430568 - Tue Jul 16 2013 05:30 PM Re: why dont people just put a price? [Re: tomzcollectiblez]
tomzcollectiblez Offline
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Registered: Sun Feb 26 2006
Loc: La Porte, In
Here is a direct link to antique radio forum rules...
Im NOT saying we should adopt these exactly, HOWEVER there are some VERY important parts of this we should seriously consider smile
Antiqur Radio Forum rules

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#430572 - Tue Jul 16 2013 06:02 PM Re: why dont people just put a price? [Re: tomzcollectiblez]
Craig Osbeck Offline
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Registered: Tue Jan 06 2009
Loc: Portland Oregon
Good points.
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#430574 - Tue Jul 16 2013 06:17 PM Re: why dont people just put a price? [Re: tomzcollectiblez]
Man-Cave-Shoppe Dave Offline
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Registered: Thu Nov 01 2012
Loc: www.mancaveshoppe.com email:bi...
Last time I checked, this site works really well just the way it is but if you want to make it more secure, then have a more substantial sign up info page with a confirmation of some type and leave the for sale forum alone. There are enough "deputies" on here that keep it mostly safe.
Do not shoot the site in the foot by making it anything but unfriendly and easy to sign up and post.
Do not restrict new members to a certain # of posts before letting them post in the for sale section, some people are not petro heads but still kind enough to let us in on what they found or dug up or ??? and they might only need to be on here just to sell that item. The member that buys it will be happy they posted it once they have it at it's new home.
The new people freshen up this site and keep the hobby growing and changing. They are a important part of this site because most of them are the future of this hobby.
Ernie is a great example of this. He only came onto this site to help his friend get the best deals for the incredible collection that he had built up over decades. He did not know what prices to ask but he did a bunch of research and asked a lot of good people and during all this, the petro bug bit him hard and now he has started a great collection for himself. I do not think he would have become the petro nut that he is if the site had restricted his activities at the start.
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#430578 - Tue Jul 16 2013 06:26 PM Re: why dont people just put a price? [Re: Man-Cave-Shoppe Dave]
Dave's Garage Offline
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Registered: Mon Dec 05 2011
Loc: Abbotsford, British Columbia, ...
I think, one would have to be pretty naive to believe that having sellers post a price will have life altering consequences for some. I just want to clarify that; Posting a price will not cause the forces of the universe to conspire against you and change your destiny.


Edited by Dave's Garage (Tue Jul 16 2013 06:27 PM)
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#430594 - Tue Jul 16 2013 07:24 PM Re: why dont people just put a price? [Re: Dave's Garage]
PETRO NUT Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Thu Mar 13 2008
Loc: MN
wow, I wish this is all I had to worry about. some of you guys really take the fun out of this.

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#430606 - Tue Jul 16 2013 07:54 PM Re: why dont people just put a price? [Re: PETRO NUT]
blacktee Offline
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Registered: Mon Jan 17 2005
Loc: Saline, Mi USA
Originally Posted By: PETRO NUT
wow, I wish this is all I had to worry about. some of you guys really take the fun out of this.


Ditto

How about the buyer never wants to make an offer, for fear he'll be way over. Let's be truthful folks... LMAO

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#430611 - Tue Jul 16 2013 08:06 PM Re: why dont people just put a price? [Re: blacktee]
Craig Osbeck Offline
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Registered: Tue Jan 06 2009
Loc: Portland Oregon
Just try giving someone an offer that wants more than you think it is worth, like twice. See what kind of reaction you get on an offer then. It all evens out, but sometimes people just fish.
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#430653 - Tue Jul 16 2013 09:24 PM Re: why dont people just put a price? [Re: Craig Osbeck]
chadrock00 Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Fri Nov 11 2005
Loc: Warsaw, Illinois
I posted my first item with offers only this past week. I will be the first to admit, I hate the "offer" game that people want to play. I knew what I expected out of it and told all inquiries that I would price it in 48 hours. Actually texted LSx (OG handle)what I was willing to take for it. Only reason I did list it as make an offer, was that I had several in depth conversations with a couple people when I got the item and I was trying to be somewhat loyal to those previous comments. I even posted that in the listing. It turned out for the better, as the item sold with in 20 minutes to one of the people that inquired about it previously. He stepped up and his offer was the first offer that was with-in reason, and was the first offer I took. Will probably be my one and only "offer sale" on OG as I have probably listed over a 1000 items on here since I started.

Very few times, but there are a few instances when the offer method serves a purpose. Bottom line is if you want to sell it, price it. The people that constantly fish shouldn't be allowed to sale after X amount of "make offer" posts, especially if that is all they do.

Part of learning the hobby/trade is overpaying and underselling. I have done it a hundred times, if not more. You live and you learn. If you take the knowledge of another and try to use it for yourself, eventually you will get burnt.(which has also happened to me) I love hear stories about people getting good deals and I love hear stories about people getting top dollar out of stuff. Probably what keeps me going. LEARNING about this stuff, including the pricing is what I like most about it.


Edited by chadrock00 (Tue Jul 16 2013 09:32 PM)

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#448356 - Tue Jul 16 2013 09:55 PM Re: why dont people just put a price? [Re: Alex]
Cindy B Offline
Active Member

Registered: Mon Jul 15 2013
Loc: West Chester, PA
Originally Posted By: Alex
This is right from the Guidlelines at the top of the For Sale Section...

Auctions must have a specific end time and any other conditions defined in the first post. (Auctions are allowed)

We recommend that items for sale are priced by the seller. The vast majority of willing buyers expect it.
(Recommended, but not required) Convince the boss to change the rules or we all need to play within them. Anyway, it makes for good discussion. we just need a few cold ones to go along with it.


Looks to me like you are set up to keep everyone happy at one time or another. Realistically speaking "For Sale" means there is a seller looking for a buyer. The details of any particular sale, if there is one, will only be important to the buyer and seller. No one else needs to be upset how any sale took place that made both the buyer and seller happy. Or even if a seller has the time and patience to wait for the best deal knowing what that could be... that should be ok too. It shouldn't be "it's my way or the highway" mentality. How about "to each his own" "different strokes for different folks"... personal preference is personal to the individual and individuality is a good thing. No harm no foul right?

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