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Fri Nov 23 2007 08:36 PM
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I found some of these today. Never really seen anything like them before. Full of some sort of heavy grease. Anybody have an idea on when they might date from? These are the only markings on the can. Thanks everyone.
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Fri Nov 23 2007 09:58 PM
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I'd guess the can is from the 1910's period because.........it's marked Standard Oil Company of New York without the SOCONY logo........it's an "automobile lubricant", rather than a buggy or carriage grease......the name "Mobilubricant" was the first usage of "Mobil" as a brand name. The can probably dates to just before or just after the 1911 breakup of the Standard Oil Trust.......at least that's my opinion.
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Fri Nov 23 2007 11:27 PM
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Are the top & bottom rolled on or soldered on ? How is the seam sealed ? db
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Sat Nov 24 2007 08:25 AM
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Here are some close ups of the seams and bottom. Sorry, but I don't know the difference between rolled and soldered on. If I had to make a guess I would say rolled? Thanks again for all your help. Has anyone come across one of these before? [This message has been edited by 59fairlane (edited 11-24-2007).]
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Sat Nov 24 2007 10:17 AM
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About 1922 tops & bottoms were rolled [crimped] on, where before they were soldered on. db
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Sun Nov 25 2007 05:44 AM
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This little can is raising alot of questions with me.
So 1922ish? Does anyone know when they first used "Mobil" in a product name?
Did the "Standard Oil Company of New York" use the long name and "SOCONY" at same time?
I found this on Wikpedia:
"Following the break-up of Standard Oil in 1911 the Standard Oil Company of New York or Socony was founded, along with 33 other successor companies. In 1920 the company registered the name "Mobiloil" as a trademark.
"Henry Clay Folger was head of the company until 1923, when he was succeeded by Herbert L. Pratt.
In 1931, Socony merged with Vacuum Oil to form Socony-Vacuum. In 1955, Socony-Vacuum was renamed Socony Mobil Oil Company, then Mobil Oil Corporation in 1966 and finally Mobil Corporation in 1976."
It would appear that The Standard Oil Company of New York (SOCONY) was formed after the breakup of the Standard Oil Trust. Is it safe to assume this?
When did they start using SOCONY as a trademark?
It also says that they registered "Mobiloil" as a trademark in 1920. Did "Mobilubricant" come after this or before?
I am guessing that it safe to say that it is safe to say this can is from pre-1931 probably 1920's anyway?
Sorry about all the questions, just curious about this.
And finally, has anybody seen one of these before?
[This message has been edited by 59fairlane (edited 11-25-2007).]
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