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Ebay item 120135391482 Is this sign real or a repop? How do you tell? Has black or dark grey backing

Thin WHITE BOARDER, position of Gromets, Black back & originals meas. 11 7/8" dia.
ASK for EXACT MEASURMENT.
db

Be wary that the seller has stated NO PAYPAL on this item, but he normally accepts Paypal. This is always a red flag on ebay. The seller will tell you it is due to Paypal fees, but in reality, it is because many times, the seller knows there is a chance of a Paypal chargeback. That is my two cents on this, out of a bad experience a couple of years ago with a similar item with NO Paypal.

Thats funny. The "No Paypal" thing. He'll take Paypal on his other listing though. Sounds like good advice to me.

In my opinion, you guys are overly paranoid. Some sellers will accept PayPal on low dollar items but refuse to take the hit for the fees on high dollar items ($22 fee on the Buy It Now price for the Signal). Check out the seller's feedback. I'd say if he responds to questions and provides requested info or photos, there should be no problem.

By the way, I have three genuine Signal pump plates. Note the EXACT dimensions...

Signal "Red Stop Light" = 12"
Signal "Ethyl" = 12"
Signal "Black Stop light" = 11 7/8"

No paranoia here. I have had it happen to me where a seller who normally takes PP, suddenly will not. Of course he or she will claim it is because of the fees. Well, I fell for it once and got badly burned by a repop sign. That is NOT paranoia. It is FACT. Watch out for this, it is a warning sign when sellers do this. BTW, there are tons of fake Signal pump plates out there and they turn up regularly on ebay.

This pump plate has been advertised for sale here on Oldgas more than once.

Re: "No paranoia here. I have had it happen to me where a seller who normally takes PP, suddenly will not. Of course he or she will claim it is because of the fees. Well, I fell for it once and got badly burned by a repop sign. That is NOT paranoia. It is FACT. Watch out for this, it is a warning sign when sellers do this."

So, should everyone act like Mark Twain's cat?? Like I said previously, simply check out the seller's feedback and ask questions. If the seller responds to questions and provides requested info and photos, what more do you want?? It doesn't make sense to assume a seller is dishonest just because he won't accept PayPal for one high dollar item.

For all the doubters, this particular Signal pump sign is real. Whether the condition justifies the price is subject to opinion but the sign is definitely genuine.



[This message has been edited by Pablo (edited 06-25-2007).]

I didn't mean to start a firestorm with this Signal Pump Plate. DB is right, I stand corrected, it actually measures 11 7/8" and it is original.
Pablo, you are correct...the reason I am not accepting Paypal on this is because of the listing fee, final value fee and because of what I paid for it.

You are also correct it has been listed on this site a couple of times....it actually sold for $825 but the buyer backed out of the sale.

All emails will be answered and I will change the listing to 11 7/8".

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frank jordan

RE" Pablo. If I wanted your opinion, I would ask for it. I sell on ebay, and I know what I am talking about. I do not care if you act like Mark Twain's cat. cram it

"gasteek",
I think Mr. Jordan has already clarified his auction and validated my observations.

What's the point of this thread? If you don't want other opinions, then I'd say keep your comments to yourself. I've been buying and selling on eBay since 1997 but I guess you know it all from your single bad experience??

wont get into whether or not its original except to indicate the overall tone and "holyer than thow" attitude laced with insinuations, accusations and threats [sent in an email to this ebayer] as posted in this listing

this party should also be most thankful mr jordan opted to answer their posted email rather than reporting them to ebay

[This message has been edited by haggis (edited 06-26-2007).]

haggis,
You're correct. I checked the Signal plate auction and that questioner was excessively rude, out of line and a total a-- h---!! I hope an Old Gasser wasn't the guilty party but I suspect it could be.

Personally, I generally accept PayPal because it encourages more bidding which in turn more than offsets the additional cost of the PayPal fees. However, I understand Mr. Jordan's position with the Buy It Now auction. Why waste money on PayPal fees when he knows exactly what he requires out of the sale? (His single error was leaving the PayPal logo and payment option in the auction while excluding that option in the description. That's not allowed under eBay rules.)

For the doubters, I've never seen a repop Signal pump sign with the white edge trim. Also as previously stated, the genuine signs are known to have diameters of either 12" or 11 7/8". The repops will be 11 1/4" - 11 3/4", depending on the source.

Cheers!!

For your information, it was NOT me who questioned this sign. I could care less what you think, but when a seller tries to sell without Paypal, it is a red flag in MANY cases. I did NOT say all cases.

Gasteek: After listing the Signal Sign I found the Paypal logo cannot be removed once the auction starts. Hope this clears it up. It was not my intent to create H&D!!!!
Frank