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Man if this is original it has to be a nice piece. I have seen plenty of PAM and other clocks but nothing like this IF original. I haven't been around that long either. Any info would be fantastic. Clock is at a local shop. Keen Kutter clock to the right looks similar in design and both take a key to wind. I looked at it up close and IF it is a Fantasy piece they did a very good job.Thanks for looking (Am I over excited!)

here is a sunoco one from Matthews auction... but not sure about the ones you have pictured - they seem fantasy to me

Now I'm scratching my head with both hands!!!

Yeah....I'm scratching other things toooooo!!

Good Stuff!!! Hopefully it is your dog!

all of the above clocks look questionable..

I wouldn't buy it w/ your money Marc

Thanks for the input guys! I opted for a few more rare cans and a candy machine. I appreciate your time!

Still laughing!!!

there should be a clock company wrote on those clocks somewhere if not open them up take a look at the works on those clocks. The works should have some kind of writing on them. What is this place asking for them. The conoco would be worth big big bucks if real and even that keen kutter would be pretty rare itself, For this person to have both of these clocks for sale would be kind of throwing out a red flag. Just for how rare these clocks would be. That sunoco looks fake to me but dont know that for a fact

You can print a face and replace them on those clocks very easily...

Sorry was on a Black Friday mission with the family and only had enough time to snap those pics. Nothing stood out to me that it was fake and it was a OLD clock for sure, just not sure if it was a old CONOCO clock. If this clock by some odd chance turns out to be authentic it would be the first of this style many of us have seen I'm sure. I did buy a nice WNAX can and a rough French Oil Can from the same guy though...and they are real so there is a chance.The SUNOCO clock looks very cheaply done even as a fantasy piece, the ones I posted, not so much.

If one talks to oneself long enough, one can convince oneself of almost anything. Trust me, I've done it.

Back away slowly, then at some point run as far away as you can.

LOL! Last time I backed away and ran as fast as I can was from my ex-wife....wore out a pair of shoes!!!!

Marc, I still wouldn't buy it if was Randy's OR Dave's money. Junk is still Junk, even w/ an old looking decal.

Dustin, I don't have doubts about the clock being real, just not real Old. Opening the case will only suggest how old the clock is.

I will try and have detailed pictures sent to me tomorrow and I will post them along with any additional information the seller has about the clock,any history etc. Once again, I appreciate the discussion!

Are you listening to anything your being told? Don't waste anymore of your time on that thing.

I posted a valid question. I will waste as much of my time as I see fit. Don't like the post, move on.

You did post a very valid question and got 6 or so good valid responses. I guess you just want to believe its real. Buy it.

IF seller Thinks/Knows it's Real, the price would be a couple of Thousands. I'm guessing it's less than a Thousand.

these are words of wisdom being spoken..

Ok,I have a question....What are the determining factors in assessing the authenticity of these clocks anyway? I mean, would a "real" one have unquestionable markings somewhere that say it was built for Conoco and have a date? Like the Sunoco one that Baileybee posted, how is it authenticated other than the fact that Matthews auctioned it? It just has a couple of decals on it that look like they would be way easier to put on a clock than Marc's Conoco one. Just askin, I have no stake in this discussion whatsoever but I have ran on to some of these type clocks before and just didn't know enough about them to pay attention. I found a beautiful Cities Service neon clock a while back and was excited until I ran it past an expert whom I trusted when he said it was fake...Educate me please......GB

Oh, and Dick, on the neon I found, the guy was asking $5,000 for it....

Asking price was 1200

FAKE!

Although no expert, other than having been around a bit of old stuff over the years, I'm betting at that age the graphics would have been painted or screened on, not a decal.
The clock and the decal just do not jibe to my eyes.

dick is right about the clock is a little older, so looking inside of the clock wouldnt tell u to much but when did conoco quit using the minute man. If that was the real mccoy that clock could reach way over 5000 dollars and for these sitting at a antique shop, there not going to be dummys, if there priced at anything less then 2500 dollars there fake and they know it.
Theres crooks out there every where and wanting too take you as a fool. Good job for posting before u bought them

Judging from the size that above appear to be, they are Kitchen/Parlor clocks.
IF seller wanted top $$$, he would've sent to a major auction company or listed on ebay w/ a reserve

I believe Conoco used the Minute Man logo up to 1930 when they went to the Triangle, probably wrong though.

You are correct, continental Oil company merged with Marland Oil in 1929, that was the end of the Minuteman. In all the years of my research I have never found an original Conoco clock! Always hoped for one, but I believe they never had one.
Ric

To my eyes the Sunoco is the only legit one of them all. The center logo looks to be plastic or porcelain. Its obviously a newer clock , made in the old style- probably keeping with the Victorian theme they had going with their stations in the 60's-70's. The others are old clocks cobbled together with new, old looking faces, in order to deceive in my opinion. With a drop of coffee or whatever around the winding holes. Just more trash to fool the babes in the woods. Me- I'd call the shop owner out on it-just to raise a bit of hell.lol
Half the time, with this new "craze" going on, the guy selling the trash believes its legit and gets his dander up when confronted with the truth. Lots of new "dealers" these days. They watch "American Peckers" for three months and they are experts. Conversely, I highly doubt Dan Mathews would put his reputation on the line for a made up clock.

I usually don't chime in...my knowledge of petro is pretty weak (I'm still learning) but I've been collecting clocks for a lot of years. In that time I have never seen a "real" one of this type, I've seen quite a few & all were poorly done fantasy pieces.
Who's to say that the company(s)didn't make these as awards or something for their employee's but pretty unlikely.....in my humble opinion most if not all of these are simply old/new $150 dollar regulator type clocks with added advertising....abracadabra & magically you now have a $1200 dollar clock !! lol

Steve Z

Simply add new face of decal...

Agree with Mick.
it's a..

I got the message, thanks for everyone's input! I'm going for a little ride today.

That was one big bag of popcorn....
Much better to go for a ride than to be taken for one. I hope you find something really fantastic and better yet, for a really fantastic price!