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#498844 - Sun Dec 15 2013 09:57 PM Re: Pan Am Globe [Re: Dave Richey]
Fueluser Offline
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Registered: Fri Jun 07 2002
Loc: Schenectady, New York USA
Well I'll be. As people say you can learn something new everyday. Thanks for the information. John

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#499343 - Tue Dec 17 2013 07:16 PM More talk about the Pan-Am globe Road Maps as proo
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Registered: Fri Jun 07 2002
Loc: Schenectady, New York USA
Hi. Yes I am slow to react to certain situations so I want to flush this out a little more. As you may know in the Showcase and Stories section there was a discussion on the Pan-Am globe.

http://www.oldgas.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=498124&page=1

I posted that I found it difficult to believe that the globe originated in New England as Pan-Am is a southern brand (or so I thought). MetroPetro said they did and as proof Dave Richey posted pictures of Pan-Am road map from New York State. At first blush I accepted this. However chewing on this a couple of days I still am not convinced. Having 1400 maps myself (but I must admit, no Pan-Am ones) I looked at my Amoco maps. My 20's Amoco map offered no information but my 40's map included this map of the US and what I take to be its distribution territories. So lets talk about this more.



I can see if I were living someplace (for this example areas serviced by Pan-Am) and submitted a trip request card (to the Pan American Petroleum Corporation) for maps up into New England area,PERHAPS I would be provide Pan-Am maps and not Amoco maps. Could this not be the case here? Just because a company offered maps for a particular state does that necessarily mean they marketed there? I am not so sure so lets discuss this. Thanks for reading my ramblings. John

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#499351 - Tue Dec 17 2013 07:48 PM Re: More talk about the Pan-Am globe Road Maps as proo [Re: Fueluser]
Carolinatraveler Offline
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Registered: Thu Feb 28 2008
Loc: Kernersville, NC
At one time, Pan Am was one of the largest oil companies in the US, with marketing not only in the south (originally as Panamco during 1923 and 1924, then Pan Am from the fall of 1924 forward), but also through a subsidiary "Mexican Petroleum" using the Pan Am name in New York and New England, and using the Pan Gas brand in California. The company was purchased by Standard of Indiana in 1925 and pieces started to go different directions. First off, the California operation was sold off to Richfield in the late 1920s. Then Standard began expanding Pan Am's subsidiary American Oil, in which they purchased had minority interest in 1923. In 1933 Standard realigned the brands and Pan-Am surrendered their Mexican Petroleum subsidiary in New England, New York and northern New Jersey to American Oil, and Pan-Am marketing in South Carolina, Georgia and Florida was also converted to American Oil. They advertised versions of "Make it Amoco from Maine to Florida" in the early years after the realignment. Pan-Am was relegated to Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana, adding Arkansas (1947, purchased Root Refining) and Kentucky (early 1950s). In 1958 the Pan Am name was phased out in those, by now, six states, in favor or Amoco but using a torch and oval logo, not the red oval used on the east coast. Then, in December 1960 is was announced the all of the Amoco brand would be replaced with American. This happened in the summer of 1961. In 1971 the began phasing Amoco back in, and Amoco was reintroduced to replace American completely in 1974.

Wayne Henderson
Petroleum Collectibles Monthly
Kernersville, NC
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Wayne Henderson
Petroleum Collectibles Monthly
Kernersville, NC

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#499358 - Tue Dec 17 2013 08:02 PM Re: More talk about the Pan-Am globe Road Maps as proo [Re: Carolinatraveler]
Gasman84470 Offline
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Registered: Sun Jan 13 2013
Loc: Calgary AB
Great intelligent discussion Wayne and John. All interesting and mostly new to me being far away but still worth the read. I have a Pan Am sign here-just liked the look and size. Now I have the background info.
Fred

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#499362 - Tue Dec 17 2013 08:19 PM Re: More talk about the Pan-Am globe Road Maps as proo [Re: Gasman84470]
Fueluser Offline
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Registered: Fri Jun 07 2002
Loc: Schenectady, New York USA
Wayne, great information. Thank you. John

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#508376 - Sat Jan 25 2014 03:21 PM Re: More talk about the Pan-Am globe Road Maps as proo [Re: Fueluser]
Dave Richey Offline
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Registered: Mon Nov 24 2008
Loc: Pearl Mississippi USA
Just found this.


Attachments
$_57.JPG


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Collecting the Mississippi companies:
Billups, Southland, Rose Oil,Crystal Oil, Barq's

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#508394 - Sat Jan 25 2014 05:15 PM Re: More talk about the Pan-Am globe Road Maps as proo [Re: Dave Richey]
MetroPetro Offline
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Registered: Fri Mar 25 2005
Loc: North Jersey
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Looking for photos, etc from 60s era Shell-A-Rama gas station and Pal's Diner, Rt. 17 Mahwah, NJ
& US or state highway signs, shields, route markers

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