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website that helps you spot a fake sign #529148
Fri Apr 18 2014 05:02 PM
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Hey guys I am new to collecting and the old gas forum, I was just wondering if there were any sites or guides that could hep you distinguish real and fake signs? Thanks!

Re: website that helps you spot a fake sign [Re: 89sheepdog] #529151
Fri Apr 18 2014 05:05 PM
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welcome to oldgas.. cool


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Re: website that helps you spot a fake sign [Re: advertologist] #529195
Fri Apr 18 2014 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: advertologist
welcome to oldgas.. cool


Thanks Randy, I was looking for like a guide or blog that explains where the holes should be proper shapes of letters etc...

Re: website that helps you spot a fake sign [Re: 89sheepdog] #529199
Fri Apr 18 2014 07:11 PM
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for instance I have this sign, how can I tell if its fake or not?

Re: website that helps you spot a fake sign [Re: 89sheepdog] #529268
Sat Apr 19 2014 05:29 AM
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unfortunately there is NO quick and easy way to identify repro's. It takes years of hands on and personal research to "Help" in determining if a sign is real or not. such information cannot just simply be put into print. Beware out there.


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Re: website that helps you spot a fake sign [Re: KZ1000] #529280
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Your best possible source for such information may be right here. I've only been in the hobby for 2 years, and between my own postings asking about fakes, and the hundreds of others asking about fakes, you learn a lot right here. It's not hands on but that can only be gotten through shows, flea markets, retail antique stores... it will take time.
One of the first lessons is this, if buying on eBay and it says, India or Argentina or..... Stay away!!
Be cautious as you start out. It's better to error on the side of caution. I remember the first summer I was in this hobby. I was at a large flea market and a guy had a Texaco Lubester plate. I just didn't' know, so I walked. Looking back now I believe it was real and it would have been a good buy. But then, my naive eyes just weren't sure. You don't want to waste money. Be patient. Get some experience.
As for your Esso sign, I have no idea. But that sloppy looking lettering along the bottom screams India to me. But I've never seen an original of this sign so maybe they were like that. I dont know.
Good luck and welcome to Oldgas!!


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Re: website that helps you spot a fake sign [Re: Steven C.] #529336
Sat Apr 19 2014 10:56 AM
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Even here, we walk a fine line between helping collectors spot unmarked repros and unwittingly helping the repro crooks to make better items with more correct details.


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Re: website that helps you spot a fake sign [Re: Oldgas] #529678
Sun Apr 20 2014 08:23 PM
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Welcome to Oldgas.com! I'm with Steve on the Esso flange you posted...doesn't look good to me.


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Re: website that helps you spot a fake sign [Re: Dave's Garage] #529761
Mon Apr 21 2014 09:07 AM
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...only two mounting holes on the flange? that's a red flag, IMO...


Looking for better Gulf items: signs, globes, cans and paper - especially porcelain Gulf flanges, and Gulf A-38 & A-62 ad glass...
Re: website that helps you spot a fake sign [Re: gulfiend!] #529792
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Originally Posted By: gulfiend!
...only two mounting holes on the flange? that's a red flag, IMO...


first thing I noticed as well...

I personally never even look at any Esso elephant advertisement piece... they seem to be one of the most abundant india/argentina repops.


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Re: website that helps you spot a fake sign [Re: Steven C.] #530061
Tue Apr 22 2014 09:23 AM
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thanks steve you were very helpful

Re: website that helps you spot a fake sign [Re: BryceG] #532645
Fri May 02 2014 10:15 PM
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Uh oh, I just bought 3 signs from Argentina. The seller goes by:elgranescaparate why am I swallowing hard right now? Has anyone heard of this guy? Thanks

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