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timeandabottle #544229 Tue Jun 24 2014 08:53 AM
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Here it is installed next to my old school bell which has the crack in the same spot as the sign. Love 'em both.

Pennzoil sign installed.jpg
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Most Banners didn't last 6 months outside, IMO the photo is Early 1932.
Yes, 76 was the Octane at the time.

Anyone ever notice that the price of a qt of Oil was almost unchanged from the 30's till the oil embargo of the late 70's & Gasoline was all over the board?

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Originally Posted By: timeandabottle
Is this a 1929 Hudson Model L or Super 6?


No , I owned a 29 Hudson for many years. The year is probably correct , 28-29 , But I would say a larger car , the hood ornament would help id it.
I can't enlarge it to get a clear photo.
At least the photo is 1928 or later. In 1930 the radiators became thinner,
but that car may be 10 years old in the photo.

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If anybody is interested I have lots of answers! The photo was taken in 1931 at the Biltmore Garage in Los Angeles. The car is a 1929 Packard. Many photos at the site I found that are VERY COOL showing old gas and oil subjects that can be searched for by brand (Pennzoil, Mobil, etc.. Google and go to the USC Libraries Archives and conduct your search there. It seems that at least in the LA area, the Round P and Round O with straight text was used quite a bit in those early years as I found many photos showing that design. Great site to visit for research!

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This site http://theoldmotor.com/?p=115919 (you'll have to copy and paste) is another fantastic research website!

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Late 1931.
Do you have any other views of the pumps?

Dick Bennett #544565 Wed Jun 25 2014 04:23 PM
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No sir I don't-sorry-Steve C. posted that photo and I couldn't find it. The two sites above have hundreds of great photos though.

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In the past, I have spent Hours looking there.
I USE to have lots of Odd Ball pump images from ebay pictures, BUT with computer Crashes they're gone.

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Originally Posted By: timeandabottle
This site http://theoldmotor.com/?p=115919 (you'll have to copy and paste) is another fantastic research website!


I knew I cropped that second pic out of a larger picture. Just couldn't remember from where. Well there it is.
Like I said, that looks like a modern staged picture.


Steve Coppens
Always interested in Sunoco items!
Really want a Sunoco National pump ad glass!!
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Those pumps look like an early 1920's Hayes, possibly a Butler model 61.

Pump behind sign in Steve's last pictures is a B & D #54/56 made from 1915 thru 1928.

With the full image in link posted, pump behind the sign is a B&D #56 air operated AERO [pg 109 in The Book].

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Here is a PENNZOIL oval w/ Black lettering w/ split bell
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/131221085409

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