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Re: The "Value Forum" [Re: Bob Richards] #553714
Wed Jul 16 2014 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted By: Bob Richards
What you just described is not the value of an item...

What you described is a resale figure... And that usually varies from sell to sell....

And there is a giant difference between the two concepts....



Value to a very great extent is determined by what someone is willing to pay for it.

You simply cannot separate the two imo.

Please use For Sale forums to sell

Please - NO offers to Buy or Sell in this forum category

Statements such as, "I'm thinking about selling this." are considered an offer to sell.
Re: The "Value Forum" [Re: Ohio Oil] #553735
Wed Jul 16 2014 07:44 AM
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5 people go to buy the same car at same dealer & ea. pays a different price.

Re: The "Value Forum" [Re: Dick Bennett] #553737
Wed Jul 16 2014 07:48 AM
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Exactly. 5 different people place a different value on the same item.

What something is worth is subjective.

Re: The "Value Forum" [Re: Ohio Oil] #553741
Wed Jul 16 2014 08:35 AM
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I've often argues location affects values too. In the New York City area prices will naturally be higher than in a rural area. A sandwich in NY now costs $10 or higher...everything is more expensive around here.

Re: The "Value Forum" [Re: jbrooks] #553742
Wed Jul 16 2014 08:51 AM
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very true Jonathan, "we definitely have our own economy" over here
Originally Posted By: jbrooks
I've often argues location affects values too. In the New York City area prices will naturally be higher than in a rural area. A sandwich in NY now costs $10 or higher...everything is more expensive around here.


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Re: The "Value Forum" [Re: MARK SMITH] #553746
Wed Jul 16 2014 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted By: MARK SMITH
I would say the GY signs are worth $191.50 ea.based on the info provided.
Originally Posted By: thermoman
I recently picked up a case of 10 NOS Goodyear signs. All exactly the same condition. I sent them to auction and sold a few locally. This is what they brought.
225
165
85
65
325
175
175
175
225
300

How many people reading this think the Goodyear sign is worth 300 and how many people think it's worth 65. The value forum is moronic.

There are a few people out there that think the India made signs are worth 5000.

If you can't feel out the value of your sign on your own or consult with friend on your own. You need to get out of the house more often.
. Lol , I agree also with you Mark .


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Re: The "Value Forum" [Re: 47reo-travis] #553919
Wed Jul 16 2014 11:17 PM
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All of this is just plain stupid. When this hobby was started we just went out and purchased items regardless of what we felt they were worth or what we should be able to sell them for.

This website was not started to give people the value of anything, it was started to give each other information.

Jim, just state, or eliminate anything having to do with value. I realize this is contrary to the books I write, but no one will publish my books without values (although this might change for the 3rd book).

This hobby is not about how much is this worth, it is about what part is missing from this pump, etc.

Why should those of us who have been with OG since it started (and there are very few of us left) be concerned about some guy coming on this site just to find out what something is worth.

Easiest way, just state, the goal of this site is not "values" it is to help each other identify, etc.

If something sells for a certain amount in the "For Sale" section, than that is the value of the item that day. Take it for what it is worth.

Let's go back to basics.

Jack Sim


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Re: The "Value Forum" [Re: Jack Sim] #553935
Thu Jul 17 2014 03:30 AM
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How about change the name to this:
"The how much would you pay today if you decided you wanted this item and had the funds readily available to purchase it forum"

And there is only 1 rule.
If you dont know what you would pay for the item at the time of your posting, because you are concerned about it's value, then you are not allowed to post anything.

wink

So that was actually sort of, kind of, a joke, okay? Everyone see's that right?
And of course, this is not a commitment! But only an honest, yet completely hypothetical response.

Last edited by Steve C.; Thu Jul 17 2014 03:37 AM.

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Re: The "Value Forum" [Re: Steven C.] #553942
Thu Jul 17 2014 04:29 AM
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It seems giving your opinions on value is only acceptable if you're trying to sell books.

It's pretty simple, don't read the value section if you don't like it. The value section generates traffic (look at the number of topics and posts) and traffic is what pays the bills.

Re: The "Value Forum" [Re: Ohio Oil] #553967
Thu Jul 17 2014 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted By: Ohio Oil


It's pretty simple, don't read the value section if you don't like it. The value section generates traffic (look at the number of topics and posts) and traffic is what pays the bills.


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Re: The "Value Forum" [Re: Ohio Oil] #553974
Thu Jul 17 2014 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted By: Ohio Oil
It seems giving your opinions on value is only acceptable if you're trying to sell books.

It's pretty simple, don't read the value section if you don't like it. The value section generates traffic (look at the number of topics and posts) and traffic is what pays the bills.



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Re: The "Value Forum" [Re: It's for sale] #553981
Thu Jul 17 2014 07:02 AM
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If the Value forum irritates you, I can make that forum invisible to you. Just click on "Contact" above and tell me you want to ignore the Value forum. I can make it all go away for you. But if you want to keep watching something that annoys you, that is a different story. But if you choose to look, why complain that you did? wink


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Re: The "Value Forum" [Re: Oldgas] #553982
Thu Jul 17 2014 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted By: Oldgas
If the Value forum irritates you, I can make that forum invisible to you. Just click on "Contact" above and tell me you want to ignore the Value forum. I can make it all go away for you. But if you want to keep watching something that annoys you, that is a different story. But if you choose to look, why complain that you did? wink


well said... cool


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Re: The "Value Forum" [Re: advertologist] #554043
Thu Jul 17 2014 02:33 PM
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I like the Value Forum. It sorts all that stuff OUT of the General Forum for me.

But telling people how to post a correct value is about like me telling the barber to just cut out the grey hairs. smile

Chuck

Last edited by Gaspedler; Thu Jul 17 2014 02:38 PM. Reason: Cain't Spell
Re: The "Value Forum" [Re: Gaspedler] #554044
Thu Jul 17 2014 03:07 PM
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I personally would prefer the posts on the value page start one of two ways:

-what can I expect to sell this item for?
or
-I'm looking to purchase this item, what would you value it at?

Boy that's bad grammar. Anyway the first question would be more for the guys looking to purchase for resale. The second question is more from a collector perspective wanting to know what to pay considering condition, rarity, current market etc...

I know it's not a perfect solution but maybe there would be less bickering.

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