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#558886 - Thu Aug 07 2014 11:05 AM Re: Homemade Cookie Cutter on E-Bay [Re: JUNK KING]
Man Cave Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Thu Jun 26 2014
Loc: New York
I love being educated...Now I know there are Good Horses everywhere for 3k...I must be misreading all the price tags. I will remove myself from this topic as it really has nothing to do with me...Just thought it important to stand up for someones obvious abilities and talent.

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#558892 - Thu Aug 07 2014 11:55 AM Re: Homemade Cookie Cutter on E-Bay [Re: Man Cave]
Dave's Garage Offline
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Registered: Mon Dec 05 2011
Loc: Abbotsford, British Columbia, ...
Usually when you read a post it is pretty easy to determine the amount of thought or the lack of thought someone has put forth. Some contribute towards the discussion at hand, while others are simply a distraction.

Gas pumps are totally different. Globes, ad glasses and decals bought from reputable suppliers have licensing in place. So they are legit. The branding (globes, ad glasses and decals) don't add value per say to the pump. Majority of a gas pumps value is derived from the gas pump itself (i.e. make & model).

Signs on the other hand derive their value based on the company and graphics. Which is intellectual property. Unlike the pump, the sign blank carries very little if any value. Majority of the fake cookie cutter's value is as a direct result of the stolen image. If it was painted blue and white with a even slightly altered graphic it wouldn't be worth nearly as much.

It's not his talent or craftsmanship that is dictating the profit he is trying to generate. It is the stolen image and design.

From the foregoing, any prudent and intelligent person will come to the conclusion that the profit in this sign is due to the theft of property belonging to Mobil. Which is totally different then restoring a Wayne 60 as a Mobil pump.

I am Hopeful, this will be enough for Junk King and his posse to put down their pitchforks and torches before they destroy any restored gas pumps.





Edited by Dave's Garage (Thu Aug 07 2014 11:56 AM)
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#558894 - Thu Aug 07 2014 11:59 AM Re: Homemade Cookie Cutter on E-Bay [Re: RoyalRust]
Bob Richards Offline
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Registered: Tue Feb 22 2005
Loc: Longview, WA
Yes most definitely; based on what you have just written. I can see that it falls within the concept that you love the Hobby and would not do anything to disgrace it and/or yourself.... (Reading your reply reminds me of Treasureray and Lacie51's responses to the Membership....When they were called out for unmarked items)

Instead of permanently marking either the front of the Pegasus; Or the back. With the actual manufactured year date along with your name and address... I can see that you take great pride in your accomplishments....

The "T-57" date you placed on your creation and the fake dates you will most likely place on the other blanks... Show great pride....

Whereas, the "T-57" mark used by the original Manufacturer; does show that the Company, was proud of their work and marked their creation with their Name (the "T") and the date their work was created ("57")....
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#558895 - Thu Aug 07 2014 12:07 PM Re: Homemade Cookie Cutter on E-Bay [Re: Bob Richards]
Highway66 Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Mon Oct 14 2013
Loc: SANTA MONICA, CA
If this Peggy was around $500 I could understand. For 3k you can probably get a real one. The marking T-57 may have been for a customer but it only makes our hobby more difficult. Rivet a plaque somewhere signing as a reproduction not that's honesty.

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#558902 - Thu Aug 07 2014 12:53 PM Re: Homemade Cookie Cutter on E-Bay [Re: Highway66]
JUNK KING Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Thu Feb 14 2013
Loc: Oklahoma
Both of these horses brought over $3000.00 one had a fake tail had been welded on and had significant porcelain loss. The 2 piece had bondo on it and porcelain loss. I would pay $3000.00 all day for good horse and turn them for a profit and you would too Dave. I notice a lot of the complainers who cry fake also sell stuff. Are you afraid that people are stupid and will get cheated or are you afraid they'll buy a nice repop cheaper and you'll lose a sale?


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Edited by JUNK KING (Thu Aug 07 2014 01:17 PM)
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#558904 - Thu Aug 07 2014 12:59 PM Re: Homemade Cookie Cutter on E-Bay [Re: JUNK KING]
henlovestoys Offline
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Registered: Mon Dec 22 2008
Loc: Bay Area, CA
Great post, Jefferson!

I am waiting for answers ... wink

Hen

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#558906 - Thu Aug 07 2014 01:17 PM Re: Homemade Cookie Cutter on E-Bay [Re: henlovestoys]
Dick Bennett Offline
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Registered: Wed Oct 25 2000
Loc: Santa Paula, Calif
Hen likes fantasy items

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#558907 - Thu Aug 07 2014 01:31 PM Re: Homemade Cookie Cutter on E-Bay [Re: Dick Bennett]
henlovestoys Offline
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Registered: Mon Dec 22 2008
Loc: Bay Area, CA
I like it all: REAL, REPRO ( Newly dated ones & older un-dated ones ) & FANTASY!

Hen


Edited by henlovestoys (Thu Aug 07 2014 01:35 PM)

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#558910 - Thu Aug 07 2014 01:53 PM Re: Homemade Cookie Cutter on E-Bay [Re: JUNK KING]
Man Cave Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Thu Jun 26 2014
Loc: New York
My thoughts...and I too have my stacks ready for all these 3k clean peggies people are going to bring me.

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#558926 - Thu Aug 07 2014 03:48 PM Re: Homemade Cookie Cutter on E-Bay [Re: JUNK KING]
RoyalRust Offline
Member

Registered: Wed Aug 06 2014
Loc: FL, Clermont USA
Hey junk king. Bring some gas over and we will light my Pegasus on fire and dance around it like wild Indians.... Seems like no one is busting cheeses chops and he's making multiples. I made one run and everybody blows a gasket. I have other stuff that I plan on making if it pleases the court room I will clearly paint on it reproduction, but as someone stated earlier "dummies don't read" so I'm not sure that would help. For the record I prefer the original but every time I see them for sell the price is higher than a giraffes *****. I priced mine with the comparable reproduction that's on eBay that no one seems to have a problem with. Why don't you guys talk about him for awhile..........

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#558928 - Thu Aug 07 2014 03:57 PM Re: Homemade Cookie Cutter on E-Bay [Re: RoyalRust]
RoyalRust Offline
Member

Registered: Wed Aug 06 2014
Loc: FL, Clermont USA
One more thing I was wondering, can anyone show me a real horse that is dated T-57? All the horses Ive ran into are dated T-55..

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#558934 - Thu Aug 07 2014 04:19 PM Re: Homemade Cookie Cutter on E-Bay [Re: RoyalRust]
RoyalRust Offline
Member

Registered: Wed Aug 06 2014
Loc: FL, Clermont USA
Oh yeah one more thing. If you buy a old gas pump and it's not a popular brand and less likely to sell and you restore it to a better selling more popular brand that makes you a little more jingle for your pocket is that not also making money off a brands name? Your stealing the intellectual property of someone else to increase your chances of making more money. I understand that a gas pump has it's own value but certain brands command higher asking prices.

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#558937 - Thu Aug 07 2014 04:46 PM Re: Homemade Cookie Cutter on E-Bay [Re: RoyalRust]
JUNK KING Offline
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Registered: Thu Feb 14 2013
Loc: Oklahoma
http://www.oldgas.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=558469&gonew=1#UNREAD

I can see it now. 10 years from now someone has this pump for sale. It's dusty a little faded and "I found this in my uncles Harley dealership he's had it for years. Don't miss out on this rare find. $10,000.00 OBO
You'll know better I'll known better but we've already been told Joe average lacks the comprehensive ability to do research and will find this pump irresistible.
Does the shoe fit?
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#558938 - Thu Aug 07 2014 04:56 PM Re: Homemade Cookie Cutter on E-Bay [Re: RoyalRust]
Ryan Underthun Offline
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Registered: Thu Nov 07 2002
Loc: Duluth, MN U.S.A
Originally Posted By: RoyalRust
Seems like no one is busting cheeses chops and he's making multiples. I made one run and everybody blows a gasket. I have other stuff that I plan on making if it pleases the court room I will clearly paint on it reproduction, but as someone stated earlier "dummies don't read" so I'm not sure that would help. For the record I prefer the original but every time I see them for sell the price is higher than a giraffes *****. I priced mine with the comparable reproduction that's on eBay that no one seems to have a problem with. Why don't you guys talk about him for awhile..........


This is typical behavior of somebody on their heels. Try to pass the blame and attention to somebody else instead of manning up.
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#558939 - Thu Aug 07 2014 04:57 PM Re: Homemade Cookie Cutter on E-Bay [Re: Mike M.]
Mike M. Offline
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Registered: Tue Jan 31 2012
Loc: Western, WI.
[quote=Mike M.] Some students ride the bus to school every day but that doesn't mean there going to learn anything!
I hate that I have to quote myself!

Gas pumps are not signs with a trademark number on it!

I think that going back to where this all started is, "as part of the Old-Gas community that enjoy doing all we can to preserve this hobby for years to come, Please mark the item Reproduction and the year. It's simple, It's honest and a far as I'm concerned takes nothing away from your great workmanship.

oh and Mine is a T 58


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