Thanks guys . It's all of you that help drive me to get off my rear and do a lot of this stuff , moving all this was a real chore this summer . I finished digging the dino island and HC sign trench Monday , installed and tied rebar , then ran the conduit and wires , then poured mid week. I was on vacation and figured better to do now than in the dead of winter. The shop Gary will be right in the middle of the two poles , the wall will be on the HC sign side . Our homes geo thermal loops run the length behind our home , and that's why I didn't want to cut down the slope much , pic is deceiving , we shot grade and there is almost 5' of fall on the building spot I plan just one longer overhead door centered in the end . Randy my avatar sign is another HC I have . The one up on the pole is the one me and my kids sectioned and repaired the lower 1ft on last year, the neon will go dead center of the end of the shop. It will have the eye brow this time to protect it from the hail. The eyebrow was DB's idea and suggestion , and it will have one this round , nothing else as a memory of him , telling me SEE I TOLD YOU to protect it from the storm ! ...Thank you all for the nice compliments .