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How many of you use single stage paint for your pumps? Pros? Cons?
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No cons. Use it. Gives you a deeper color.
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I've used it on a few pumps no complaints, worked great for me as I do the work myself.
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No pros or cons... Can get just as deep of colors with lots of clears also. Solid colors single stage works awesome but we have a lot less choices for single stage colors in the current mixing systems as automakers have just about all 2 and 3 stage colors now.
Just remember with single stage you have to refinish in a very clean area cause any dust/dirt will be in the color, where 2 stage gives you a better chance for clean colors.
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I use single stage. Easy to use and touch up if you have to.
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Good answers. Probably go with the single stage paint.
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Last one I did in single stage 
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I use single stage from the local NAPA store. I tried some paint from TSC but when back to NAPA.
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I haven't done a pump since they came up with two stage.....LOL
I did used to smack the hardener to the paint to make it gloss like mad. & hot thinner.
I imagine single takes more skill. Sometimes I would want to pull my hair out.
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I use single stage Kirker and love it.
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I finished the body work this afternoon. Glad I did it. Going to use single stage 1999 Torch Red (Chevy), GM White, and gloss black. Think it will be done by this Friday. Will post pics when I begin to put it back together.
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Hi retrobob, sounds like you've got this, but my two cents:
I use both single stage and basecoat/clearcoat systems, but 90% base/clear, there's no right or wrong answer on this but this may be helpful.
If you are doing graphics or mutliple colors on a single panel, clearcoat is the way to go.
When doing metallic paints, having clearcoat is better so you can color sand/polish it (you can't sand single stage metallics).
If you are in a dirty environment, its slightly better to have single stage, less chance to capture dirt.
I find it easier to repair base/clear systems, easier to blend.
I wouldnt worry about depth, black single stage looks awesome and doesnt need clear to give it depth.
Good luck on your paint job! Anxious to see it.
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Hi retrobob, sounds like you've got this, but my two cents:
I use both single stage and basecoat/clearcoat systems, but 90% base/clear, there's no right or wrong answer on this but this may be helpful.
If you are doing graphics or mutliple colors on a single panel, clearcoat is the way to go.
When doing metallic paints, having clearcoat is better so you can color sand/polish it (you can't sand single stage metallics).
If you are in a dirty environment, its slightly better to have single stage, less chance to capture dirt.
I find it easier to repair base/clear systems, easier to blend.
I wouldnt worry about depth, black single stage looks awesome and doesnt need clear to give it depth.
Good luck on your paint job! Anxious to see it.
Thanks for your comments. I should get the parts back from the paint shop today. Then, put it all back together. I went the single stage route. Yes, I will post up some pics.
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I agree completely with Paul Bell's recommendations in the post above.
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Well the paint job is complete. This is my friend, Ron, who did the painting. I opted for the single stage paint.     I will begin the process or reassembly tomorrow. Stay tuned. By the way, the green painted object is for someone's antique tractor. It is not part of my Wayne 70 project. I am probably one of the few residents of my town who does not own an antique tractor. Maybe that will be my next adventure.
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Looks good, let the fun begin on putting back together , looks like your ready to go ! Can't wait to see it done.
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Parts look good, Mobil is a great choice.
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As many years as it has been out, I have never shot base/clear. Supposed to be 'fool proof'. The little painting I have done has been single stage and I have wet sanded to the finish I like and wax. My car is base/clear and its NICE. If I'm doing it one step and one cost is plenty
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Way to go Ron! Look at the shine! Nice job. Well the paint job is complete. This is my friend, Ron, who did the painting. I opted for the single stage paint. I will begin the process or reassembly tomorrow. Stay tuned. By the way, the green painted object is for someone's antique tractor. It is not part of my Wayne 70 project. I am probably one of the few residents of my town who does not own an antique tractor. Maybe that will be my next adventure.
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Looks great! For a second there I thought you were throwing some polly green on tha pump!
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I use single stage on all my projects. I even used it on my pickup. I am constantly getting positive comments about the paint on my truck and on my pumps. The single stage has a different quality to it, sort of softer like. I also really like the fact that if you screw up and get a run you can just sand it and buff it out. [img:left]  [/img]
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Almost done. A few minor things left to do. Been having trouble getting the doors to close properly. Any suggestions? 
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It's usually just a lot of fiddling, bending hinges, etc. I do like to tape te door bottoms so I don't scratch the paint.
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It's usually just a lot of fiddling, bending hinges, etc. I do like to tape te door bottoms so I don't scratch the paint. The hinges appear to be cast aluminum. Can you actually bend them?
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No don't try bending the hinges. You can carefully bend the metal tabs the hinges attache to and you can shim (washers used as spacers) the hinges where they attache to the tabs.
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I have had good luck bending Wayne 70 and Tokheim 39 hinges just be sure and heat them with a heat gun or put them in an over at 400 degrees and bend them after being well warmed up.
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Yeah, if their cast aluminum I'd see why you'd have to be careful! Dons approach makes sense to me, sometimes shimming just won't do it. I usually fit the doors before I paint now, just easier, I leave the hinges on the frame when I can and just paint them with the frame. Avoids mixing up where each hinge was. Not sure if thats possible on wayne 70s. Got tired of spending hours fitting doors and having to touch up paint!
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Ok folks, here it is. My first restoration of a Wayne 70 pump. I learned a lot and will look forward to more Petro restorations.  
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Looks good. Now get a mobil special globe and slap on it!
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Looks good. Now get a mobil special globe and slap on it! Nope, gonna leave it with the Corvette globe. Thanks.
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Thanks for all of the advice and encouragement. I greatly appreciated your help. Great site and great folks.
Bob H.
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Looks great Bob, nice work
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