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#574046 - Sun Oct 12 2014 09:03 PM Re: 30" Red Indian sign [Re: Gasman84470]
advertologist Offline
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Registered: Fri Sep 07 2007
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Fred, never knew there were 2 different chiefs as the
gasoline motor oils above has white in the eyes,
my gasoline motor oils is like the other examples... cool


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#574069 - Sun Oct 12 2014 09:48 PM Re: 30" Red Indian sign [Re: Gasman84470]
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I can't believe the details you guys notice. I only have two Red Indian signs the 30" and a 60". My 60" has the white eyes as shown below. I just don't run into Red Indian around here...tough signs to find in any condition.


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#574072 - Sun Oct 12 2014 09:58 PM Re: 30" Red Indian sign [Re: Dave's Garage]
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Dave,
which chief is earlier, white eye or black eye,
or is the diffence a different sign maker?-
must be nice too have both, now I need a white eye.. cool
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#574074 - Sun Oct 12 2014 10:01 PM Re: 30" Red Indian sign [Re: advertologist]
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Randy, I don't know. I'm learning as this thread is progressing. We'll have to wait for one of the more experienced collector's to share that knowledge.
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#574077 - Sun Oct 12 2014 10:05 PM Re: 30" Red Indian sign [Re: redindianguy]
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Originally Posted By: redindianguy
Who knows of any 30" red Indian signs ?


well from this thread you should know where all the Red Indian signs are... cool
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#574080 - Sun Oct 12 2014 10:19 PM Re: 30" Red Indian sign [Re: advertologist]
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Registered: Tue Oct 08 2013
Loc: LaGrange, Kentucky
Black eye Indian has feathers over his braids.
White eye Indian has no feathers.

Is black eye Indian a higher ranking member of the tribe?

I find this thread ironic considering it's nearly Columbus Day. White eye and black eye Indian probably won't be celebrating the holiday.


Edited by Bbburke (Sun Oct 12 2014 10:24 PM)
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#574082 - Sun Oct 12 2014 10:22 PM Re: 30" Red Indian sign [Re: advertologist]
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Registered: Thu Jan 10 2013
Loc: Chester County, PA
Originally Posted By: advertologist
Originally Posted By: redindianguy
Who knows of any 30" red Indian signs ?


well from this thread you should know where all the Red Indian signs are... cool


Mine...

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#574086 - Sun Oct 12 2014 10:40 PM Re: 30" Red Indian sign [Re: rbonitz]
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Registered: Mon Oct 14 2013
Loc: SANTA MONICA, CA
Loving the Shell smalls in the display pump.. Wow!

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#574087 - Sun Oct 12 2014 10:53 PM Re: 30" Red Indian sign [Re: rbonitz]
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Red Indian motor oil sign &
globe appear too be black eye-
3 sets of Red Indian playing cards,
top deck- white eye
bottom 2- black eye
service pin- can't tell... cool


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#574089 - Sun Oct 12 2014 11:09 PM Re: 30" Red Indian sign [Re: advertologist]
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Black eye looks more confident, aggressive, and younger. Has a real pointed face and long nose.

White eye looks older and kinda sad. His face is flattened out like an old retired boxer. The white eyes make him look way less aggressive.
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#574155 - Mon Oct 13 2014 08:59 AM Re: 30" Red Indian sign [Re: Bbburke]
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Registered: Wed Jul 04 2012
Loc: Ontario,Can
From my research of pictures and conversations with Dave (Redindianguy) here is the order for their signs using #1 as the oldest. BTW, Dave does have an AMAZING collection and is definitely well educated and the go to guy on Red Indian info.

1.Gasoline/Motor Oils. White eye with black reliefs in head dress
2.Gasoline/Motor Oils. Black eye with white reliefs in head dress
3.McColl-Frontenac Products.

As far as which is the most difficult to find. It's all scarce, but the first 5' sign versions seem more plentiful compared to anything else. The early signage (teens-20's) is definitely hard to find and the Indian head uses a very primitive design compared to the others.
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#574178 - Mon Oct 13 2014 10:45 AM Re: 30" Red Indian sign [Re: junior25]
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good info... cool
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#574184 - Mon Oct 13 2014 11:12 AM Re: 30" Red Indian sign [Re: advertologist]
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Edited by advertologist (Mon Oct 13 2014 11:21 AM)
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#574257 - Mon Oct 13 2014 06:38 PM Re: 30" Red Indian sign [Re: advertologist]
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Registered: Sat Jul 28 2012
Loc: Ontario, Canada
great posts guys the white eye is earlier . Seen a few 30's but almost always rough . best I have seen is probably an 8 .
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#574656 - Wed Oct 15 2014 06:58 AM Re: 30" Red Indian sign [Re: Gasman84470]
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Registered: Sat Jul 28 2012
Loc: Ontario, Canada
I like the older head stuff myself . But cond seems to drive price the most regardless of head . The smaller signs all have the later head as I am pretty sure they were all made in the later 30's to the later to mid 40's . Some are marked 1946 . I try to base everything on pictures and the cars in those pics to date stuff . Unless we have someone who was there , that's all we have left . So many of the stories are lost when these things get sold . Its unfortunate to me that so much of the history is lost . If only the signs could talk .
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