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#575697 - Mon Oct 20 2014 08:54 PM Re: gasco pump sign [Re: eric grinder]
Neil Gerrard Offline
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Registered: Tue Dec 09 2003
Loc: Canby, Oregon
That sucks, tell him you won't give him a neg if he gives you the name of whomever back doored you then post it here for all to see. That's a low thing to do on the seller's and buyers part.
Originally Posted By: eric grinder
Congrats to the "new" owner of this sign. I had won the item off ebay but wasnt planning on saying so until it was in hand. Ofcourse after "recent events" the seller has changed his mind on the sale...lol. Funny thing is...I would have matched the mystery person's better offer and then some if he gave me the chance..oh well.. cant win em all.

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#575703 - Mon Oct 20 2014 09:17 PM Re: gasco pump sign [Re: Neil Gerrard]
advertologist Offline
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Registered: Fri Sep 07 2007
Loc: So. Ca.
Originally Posted By: Neil Gerrard
That sucks, tell him you won't give him a neg if he gives you the name of whomever back doored you then post it here for all to see.


he would have already gotten the negative,
that isn't going too happen, then the seller would be admitting guilt... cool
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#575722 - Mon Oct 20 2014 10:18 PM Re: gasco pump sign [Re: advertologist]
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Registered: Sat Aug 07 2004
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Sent you a PM

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#575741 - Tue Oct 21 2014 12:33 AM Re: gasco pump sign [Re: advertologist]
Neil Gerrard Offline
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Registered: Tue Dec 09 2003
Loc: Canby, Oregon
wrong, he won't get a neg unless Eric gives him one, Ebay won't do anything without a complaint and even then they don't do squat
Originally Posted By: advertologist
Originally Posted By: Neil Gerrard
That sucks, tell him you won't give him a neg if he gives you the name of whomever back doored you then post it here for all to see.


he would have already gotten the negative,
that isn't going too happen, then the seller would be admitting guilt... cool

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#575816 - Tue Oct 21 2014 12:05 PM Re: gasco pump sign [Re: Neil Gerrard]
Dave's Garage Offline
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Registered: Mon Dec 05 2011
Loc: Abbotsford, British Columbia, ...
Originally Posted By: Neil Gerrard
That sucks, tell him you won't give him a neg if he gives you the name of whomever back doored you then post it here for all to see. That's a low thing to do on the seller's and buyers part.


Neil, I totally agree with you. Unfortunately, there are very few of us on this site that see this as being unethical.

These buyers and sellers; that lack self respect, how can you expect them to respect others?
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#575872 - Tue Oct 21 2014 06:06 PM Re: gasco pump sign [Re: Dave's Garage]
Neil Gerrard Offline
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Registered: Tue Dec 09 2003
Loc: Canby, Oregon
sad but true
Originally Posted By: Dave's Garage


Neil, I totally agree with you. Unfortunately, there are very few of us on this site that see this as being unethical.

These buyers and sellers; that lack self respect, how can you expect them to respect others?

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#576440 - Fri Oct 24 2014 03:37 PM Re: gasco pump sign [Re: Neil Gerrard]
eric grinder Offline
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Registered: Fri May 21 2010
Loc: MA
I felt I had to give you all an update on this situation. Yes I was the lucky one to come across this item within minutes of it being listed on ebay last week. I couldn't believe my eyes and thought that there was surely a chance it was no good but I gambled anyway. Within hours of the end of auction there was a thread about it here on OG which quickly rested my worry on it's authenticity. I immediatly thought...ugh ohh that might not be good for me. I had already contacted the seller and asked him to ship out that day as I had paid immediatly. He responded quickly with a " yep no problem" and that was that. Well after 2 days with no tracking updates I decided to email him. Nothing...nothing for the rest of the weekend. I already knew what was coming. Sure enough after a weekend of no replies to multiple emails and a phone call the seller finally answered me. He was claiming it was a mistake to list the item and wanted to cancel the transaction. I got a cancellation request from ebay and a full refund. Well I planned on going down swinging anyway. Ofcourse I had lost all hope of getting this item that I won fair and square and paid for within seconds of winning. Yes, I contacted Ebay..(Joke) which I knew but had to try anyway.

With all hope lost and pretty bummed out about the situation, I posted a congrats to the new owner and was done with it. Then it hit me why this site and the people on here are so great! I got an IM from Jeff Smith aka (petropumps)from OR, which just so happened to be the same state the seller was from. He wanted to help me in anyway he could in the matter....well Jeff just so happens to be a lawyer in the great state! So I gladly accepted his generous offer and passed on some info early morning on Tuesday. Even with the bad experience the offer from Jeff to do this just made my day regardless of the outcome. "What great people on here" I told my wife that morning. Well lets just say Mr Smith must be very good at what he does...lol. Within minutes of him contacting the seller, he was on the phone with me telling me he'd be more than happy to sell me the sign through Ebay. The sign was in the mail the morning after the phone call. It arrived today safe and sound! I want to express my deepest gratitude to Jeff for his help with this matter. I hope it was fun for him to get a small piece of justice against some of the nonsense that goes down on Ebay daily. Job well done!



Edited by eric grinder (Fri Oct 24 2014 03:39 PM)
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#576444 - Fri Oct 24 2014 03:54 PM Re: gasco pump sign [Re: eric grinder]
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Registered: Mon Jan 28 2013
Loc: Peoria, IL
simply awesome to hear.
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#576452 - Fri Oct 24 2014 05:00 PM Re: gasco pump sign [Re: BryceG]
archer2 Online   content
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Registered: Sat Nov 25 2006
Loc: Marshall Va USA
Congrats Eric and bravo to Jeff Smith.
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#576456 - Fri Oct 24 2014 05:17 PM Re: gasco pump sign [Re: archer2]
DCpate Offline
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Registered: Wed Nov 08 2000
Loc: Norman, OK
Strong arming the guy to sell the sign...

Wow
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#576460 - Fri Oct 24 2014 06:12 PM Re: gasco pump sign [Re: DCpate]
advertologist Offline
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Registered: Fri Sep 07 2007
Loc: So. Ca.
congratulations, ended well.. cool
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#576461 - Fri Oct 24 2014 06:37 PM Re: gasco pump sign [Re: advertologist]
57tbirdkid Offline
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Registered: Tue May 04 2010
Loc: NY
Im sorry but I have to disagree on this. You cant force someone to sell you something. Not cool! I understand the seller backed out but if someone had a lawyer call me and tell me to sell them the sign or any item and I did not want to as I "changed my mind" they would have more problems then worry about getting the sign.
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#576464 - Fri Oct 24 2014 06:54 PM Re: gasco pump sign [Re: 57tbirdkid]
DCpate Offline
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Registered: Wed Nov 08 2000
Loc: Norman, OK
Originally Posted By: 57tbirdkid
Im sorry but I have to disagree on this. You cant force someone to sell you something. Not cool! I understand the seller backed out but if someone had a lawyer call me and tell me to sell them the sign or any item and I did not want to as I "changed my mind" they would have more problems then worry about getting the sign.


Agree 100%

I'd like for an atty to try and force me to sell a sign

WAY heavy handed
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#576466 - Fri Oct 24 2014 07:36 PM Re: gasco pump sign [Re: DCpate]
Lastgas15 Offline
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Registered: Mon Mar 04 2002
Loc: illinois
There are laws that regulate auctions. Ebay is no different.
When a seller lists an item with no reserve it's the "offer" part of a contract. When a buyer bids, it's the "acceptance" part of a contract. When the terms of the auction are met, the seller and the buyer are bound by law to complete the transaction.
That was told to me by a lawyer that specializes in law pertaining to auctions.

The time for a seller to change his mind is before the auction ends. Once an unreserved auction ends with bids(or reserve met), seller and buyer have a contract any using a lawyer to enforce the contract is fair game.


Edited by Lastgas15 (Fri Oct 24 2014 07:40 PM)
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#576467 - Fri Oct 24 2014 07:37 PM Re: gasco pump sign [Re: DCpate]
hancock-oil Offline
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Registered: Thu Nov 27 2008
Loc: San Jose Ca us
Legal contract should of thought about that before listing!Sold!
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