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This has most likely been discussed in another forum,but I thought I might ask the question again as I didn't really get an answer from the globe forum. Just more confused about its authenticity.

I have a milk glass screw bottom globe that holds a pair of 13 1/2 in. lens. The base is a six inch copper , I guess it's called a fitter, that has : PAT. NO-1604773 stamped into the copper. The copper part is actually 6 inches at the bottom of the opening. I was able to unscrew the globe with a little WD-40 and the actual glass part of the globe is 5 inches wide, so I'm assuming this means the globe is a 1/2 inch in thickness. It is sort of yellowed compared to the white wall it is against. It definitely is not a bright white. It also has a ridge around the outer edge. I don't have a known original to compare this to. I don't see any actual markings on the globe itself and I'm not sure where to look if it is marked.

I bought this about 10 years ago on a popular auction site. Does anyone think this sounds like it is original or a repro. It's also right at 5 inches from edge to edge on the side. I weighed it with one cracked lens and got 9.8 lbs. with the copper base rescrewed to the globe Any help would be gladly appreciated. A value would be nice as well, just th globe, not the cracked lens.


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These are photos of the globe in question submitted by the poster. I'm new at this so I should have had photos already. Sorry for the quaility, iPads don't take good photos.

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Actual globe.

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Patent No on base.

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End of globe without copper.

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Original-- I don't know of anyone reproducing the copper screw base type of globe bodies?


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date of pat. on screw on base would be late 20's.. ... cool


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Thanks guys for your help. I had a hell of a time getting the copper base to screw off. I was scared I was going to break the globe.

I really appreciate the help you've provided.

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Original-- I don't know of anyone reproducing the copper screw base type of globe bodies?

Chuck Pergl makes screw base narrows. I think they are Sinclair molds with a screw on them.
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This was purchased in early 2004 and was very dirty when I bought the item. I cleaned it up. Did Chuck Pergl make these back then? Purchased through eBay for well over $400.00 and picked it up in a old shed in East Texas.

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From the Pergl Web site:
"In the 1970's Pergl began providing high-quality gas pump globe reproductions"

http://www.perglgaspumpglobes.com/

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Originally Posted By 2Bears
This was purchased in early 2004 and was very dirty when I bought the item. I cleaned it up. Did Chuck Pergl make these back then? Purchased through eBay for well over $400.00 and picked it up in a old shed in East Texas.


If you paid well over $400 for a globe body in 2004 you way overpaid! In 2004 an original narrow screw base body would sell for about $160. Current price would be $250-$300.
Why don't you email a picture to Pergl and ask if it's one of his bodies? Here's the email address found on his website...
PerglGlobes@yahoo.com


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Originally Posted By DWSheffer

Did you expect a different outcome?


Wanted: Gas pump globes:Sinclair & affiliates, IL companies. Ripple bodies. Anything Sinclair, Stoll, Pierce, 4 Bros.


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Not anymore Bob......the reason I don't participate in the values section.

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Yes, it gets old.


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Very discouraging!


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frown To add Insult to Injury, in his description he refers to the 2 veterans as knowledgeable in "petralina." DUH.
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