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Re: Did I screw up?? Fake sign?? Rustyrelics [Re: eric grinder] #665032
Wed Aug 31 2016 04:45 PM
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Steve, Ill email you pictures of mine. Anyone that wants to see what differences from real deal
+ I can find can PM me I guess as I dont want to have this lying POS improve his chances of screwing somebody else with his next batch by posting the pictures here.

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Re: Did I screw up?? Fake sign?? Rustyrelics [Re: JimT] #665034
Wed Aug 31 2016 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted By JimT
Steve, Ill email you pictures of mine. Anyone that wants to see what differences from real deal
+ I can find can PM me I guess as I dont want to have this lying POS improve his chances of screwing somebody else with his next batch by posting the pictures here.


Exactly Jim! What a shame we cant even enjoy our hobby on our own site!! But better safe than sorry!!
Look forward to the pics!!!


Steve Coppens
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Really want a Sunoco National pump ad glass!!
Re: Did I screw up?? Fake sign?? Rustyrelics [Re: Steven C.] #665038
Wed Aug 31 2016 05:00 PM
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Jim, your over your PM limit and I sure would like to see the real deal, thanks Les.


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Re: Did I screw up?? Fake sign?? Rustyrelics [Re: Steven C.] #665046
Wed Aug 31 2016 05:34 PM
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I do not believe anyone can create an exact copy of a sign from a "low resolution" JPEG image.

Then, the biggest issue dealing with porcelain signs, IMO:

1- Color matching
2- Shelving

My 2-cents worth!

Re: Did I screw up?? Fake sign?? Rustyrelics [Re: Steven C.] #665085
Thu Sep 01 2016 04:19 AM
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I agree with Hen . They cannot match the depth of the old porcelain . I imagine the ovens they use put a lower quality porcelain on for what ever reason .


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Re: Did I screw up?? Fake sign?? Rustyrelics [Re: redindianguy] #665162
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Do you not see the shelving on the sign Steve posted?

Re: Did I screw up?? Fake sign?? Rustyrelics [Re: Steven C.] #665170
Thu Sep 01 2016 08:15 PM
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Yah, this sign actually has very nice shelving. Almost to good maybe.

Filed a refund with ebay and the seller if fine with it. No problem at all. So I'm sending it back. If I could afford it, I would just destroy it. But I can't throw away $700! So it will unfortunately be back in circulation.

But I know what to look for now on these signs.

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Re: Did I screw up?? Fake sign?? Rustyrelics [Re: advertologist] #665195
Fri Sep 02 2016 06:58 AM
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Randy, are you saying that all these listings bu this person are fake, even the dated ones.
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Re: Did I screw up?? Fake sign?? Rustyrelics [Re: Steven C.] #665219
Fri Sep 02 2016 12:33 PM
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A few months ago I attended a local auction that had several signs listed. One of the signs was a Fisk Tires porcelain flange sign. In trying to place a value on it, the only info I could find was for three that had sold by rustyrelicsart on ebay, all within about a month or 2 of each other. One of them was the one in the auction (I could tell by the chip pattern on both sides). I stayed away from it because of the source but unfortunately (for the guy who ended up with it), it sold quite a bit higher than the ebay buyer paid.

Re: Did I screw up?? Fake sign?? Rustyrelics [Re: Steven C.] #665232
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For anyone who wants to send her flowers, here is her return address that I am to ship the sign to.

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Re: Did I screw up?? Fake sign?? Rustyrelics [Re: Steven C.] #665233
Fri Sep 02 2016 01:26 PM
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Have Vito deliver them.


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Re: Did I screw up?? Fake sign?? Rustyrelics [Re: Steven C.] #665234
Fri Sep 02 2016 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Steve C.
For anyone who wants to send her flowers, here is her return address that I am to ship the sign to.


Strange that their auctions say Plymouth, Indiana???


Thanks
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Re: Did I screw up?? Fake sign?? Rustyrelics [Re: Steven C.] #665307
Sat Sep 03 2016 08:25 AM
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Wow!! Now this is very interesting! I found this in an actual Sunoco sales book I have from 1922. It stated the actual size that these signs were issued in. And it doesn't match this Rustyrelics sign I assure you!!!
Also pinpoints the date to at least 1922 anyway. Which is cool to know.

One other interesting note, although the text states the sign is "3 colors", it shows the flange as white. Probably just a printing thing for the book. I dont think the flanges where white. But....??

I blocked it out as not to give away the secret.
If you want to know the size, and your a regular member on here, PM me and I'll tell you what the book said.

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Re: Did I screw up?? Fake sign?? Rustyrelics [Re: Steven C.] #665439
Mon Sep 05 2016 12:18 AM
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Very cool of you to post their address Steve. I noticed on ebay that rustyrelicsart is located in Plymouth, Indiana.

Did you buy the sign from Rustyrelics or Rustyrelicsart? Did the sign ship from Plymouth or Wisconsin?

Just wondering if their operation is bigger than we realize, involving several people/scam artists in more than one location, or does rustyrelicsart just list there location as Plymouth, IN to avoid conflict.

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Re: Did I screw up?? Fake sign?? Rustyrelics [Re: Steven C.] #665451
Mon Sep 05 2016 05:38 AM
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Interesting observation Steve. And now having checked, I see I actually purchased it from RustyrelicsART, out of Plymouth In. But checking the USPS tracking, it shipped out of Clinton Wi.
Hmmmmm??? The plot thickens!


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