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#696131 - Fri Oct 06 2017 04:36 PM Help on identifying an original Buick globe.
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First off I AM NOT A GLOBE GUY...
I bought this globe from an older gentleman in Escanaba, Michigan maybe fifteen years ago. He claimed it came from the old closed Buick dealer in town. I am sure the body is original Capco, but not sure about the lenses. There are no dates or markings.
Can anyone tell me how to tell either way?
Thanks in advance for any help.








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#696243 - Sun Oct 08 2017 08:15 AM Re: Help on identifying an original Buick globe. [Re: Old Racer]
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Okay, does anyone know if the EVER made Buick globes??
I don't see one in Scott's CD
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#696244 - Sun Oct 08 2017 08:18 AM Re: Help on identifying an original Buick globe. [Re: Old Racer]
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Okay, does anyone know if the EVER made Buick globes??
I don't see one in Scott's CD
I have found three (3) NEVER seen globes in my life, but this one has me puzzled.
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#696597 - Thu Oct 12 2017 02:01 PM Re: Help on identifying an original Buick globe. [Re: Old Racer]
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Loc: Plover, Wisconsin, U.S.A.
Hi, John. I'll check for you over on the Buick club site, as to whether there was ever a Buick globe in real life. BUT, it's possible your lenses might be the 1980's repro (or fantasy) offering that used to be available. I'm not sure if those lenses were marked or dated at the bottom. This earlier Buick repro globe lens has not been available for quite a few years. The current reproduction Buick Sales & Service globe features the newer red, white and blue Buick logo.

Also, on your globe, I'm sure you observed that the lenses are in great condition, while the CAPCO body looks pretty roached....perhaps a clue! Best regards, John


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#696603 - Thu Oct 12 2017 02:29 PM Re: Help on identifying an original Buick globe. [Re: Old Racer]
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As far as the condition the guy had it sitting on his son porch I guess for like 30 years. The Capco body is actually an excellent condition not roach that all but the coloring you can see all the Swirls and I think the sun did that to it. In my time fooling with gas and oil I have found three Globes that were Originals that no one has ever seen before.
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#696608 - Thu Oct 12 2017 03:20 PM Re: Help on identifying an original Buick globe. [Re: Old Racer]
Morgan Offline
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Registered: Fri Oct 13 2000
Loc: Texas USA
Mitch Stinzler had some made years ago. Back in the late 70s. He sold them in his pawn shop. He also made a nice Sunray porcelain sign. 8" I believe, $35.00 each. No dates on anything back in those days.

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#696609 - Thu Oct 12 2017 03:47 PM Re: Help on identifying an original Buick globe. [Re: Old Racer]
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Thanks Morgan that's interesting. So while back in the seventies that really does make them antiques. LOL
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#696614 - Thu Oct 12 2017 08:01 PM Re: Help on identifying an original Buick globe. [Re: Old Racer]
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I believe Morgan is referring to the reproduction Buick globes I also mentioned. As both a Buick and old gas collector, I saw more than a few of these one-color Buick repros at meets in the 1980's.

Mitch Stinzler is the guy from Weber's in Fort Worth, isn't he? I have a faint memory of having seen a Buick globe in this design offered in their catalog back in the day. I don't think it was a Charlie Pergl item I'm thinking of, but most likely Weber's. I used to get their color catalog in the later 1970's and early 1980's. The quality of their reproduction globes was excellent. I bought a few of the more unique "rare" ones, since I knew it wasn't likely I would ever find an original. My memory is that the Weber reproduction globes came on actual CAPCO bodies. I think the bodies were still being produced by CAPCO at that point in time....after all, that's over 40 years ago!

When we're in the hobby long enough, some of these memories have been tucked away in some far-off corner of the brain. It's fun to have something like the picture of the repro Buick globe trigger a "retrieval". John



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#696617 - Thu Oct 12 2017 08:13 PM Re: Help on identifying an original Buick globe. [Re: Old Racer]
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That body looks like one of those old swirl bodies. I had one once and thought it was weathered and discolored but Scott B. bought it from me at IG and said it was original that way.
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#696618 - Thu Oct 12 2017 08:16 PM Re: Help on identifying an original Buick globe. [Re: keithia]
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Originally Posted By keithia
That body looks like one of those old swirl bodies. I had one once and thought it was weathered and discolored but Scott B. bought it from me at IG and said it was original that way.


Thanks for all the info guys
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#696640 - Fri Oct 13 2017 08:28 AM Re: Help on identifying an original Buick globe. [Re: Old Racer]
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Registered: Wed Jul 24 2002
Loc: Riley, MI, USA
Just an FYI.

There are NO ORIGINAL Buick lenses listed on the latest globe CD.

And from the photos John posted, it looks like a fantasy globe in a 40 year old body.

If the white side is real smooth (like 600 sandpaper), it is probably an early undated fantasy globe.

Most (not all, but most) original lenses have a fairly rough finish on the white side. It will feel like 100 grit sandpaper - NOT smooth. And the white is usually more transparent than current reproduction/fantasy lenses.

Feel the inside of an known original lens, then feel these. That will give you your answer.

Later . . .

Jim


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#696641 - Fri Oct 13 2017 08:38 AM Re: Help on identifying an original Buick globe. [Re: Old Racer]
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Thanks Jim it sounds like from what everybody is saying it is a really old fantasy lens. Not as old as I am but old....
Well at least I ended up with a really cool original body.
Thanks again to everyone for all the input.


Edited by Old Racer (Fri Oct 13 2017 08:39 AM)
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#696744 - Sun Oct 15 2017 08:57 AM Re: Help on identifying an original Buick globe. [Re: Old Racer]
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Registered: Sun Sep 30 2001
Loc: LaGrange, Ohio
Pergl Gas Globes back in the mid 1970s made tons of "car globes" like this, now over 40 years old! Frame is original inserts are some of those he made back then. None were ever dated. Back then he told me he never thought these would be a problem. Scott B.

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#696763 - Sun Oct 15 2017 04:02 PM Re: Help on identifying an original Buick globe. [Re: Old Racer]
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Thanks Scott your input is always appreciated as well.
Ok, so I have a really old fantasy globe in a really old CAPCO body.
Now I just need to find a Buick collector that would like to spend $200 on a really old Buick fantasy globe.
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#696811 - Mon Oct 16 2017 02:07 PM Re: Help on identifying an original Buick globe. [Re: Old Racer]
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Loc: Midland, Michigan
John,
Since when did 40 years old become "really old"???? I'm 48, so 40 can't be old!

Brianh

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