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#699120 - Tue Nov 21 2017 12:28 PM level of restotation
dokako Offline
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Registered: Sat Nov 18 2017
Loc: Fond du lac, Wisconsin
How far should I go with my restoration? I have a Correct Measure 10H and I am wondering how deep I should go with the restoration.Is it best to just do the cosmetics or does it add a lot of value to rebuild the inside also? I'm interested In hearing what some of you think

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Dokako

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#699122 - Tue Nov 21 2017 01:32 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
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Registered: Sat Dec 01 2007
Loc: Stella, NC
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#699124 - Tue Nov 21 2017 01:48 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: gaspumpfrank]
dokako Offline
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Registered: Sat Nov 18 2017
Loc: Fond du lac, Wisconsin
Sorry, here is the picture


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#699125 - Tue Nov 21 2017 02:25 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
Ryan Underthun Offline
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Loc: Duluth, MN U.S.A
I vote to leave it as it is.
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#699126 - Tue Nov 21 2017 02:42 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
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Registered: Mon May 07 2012
Loc: Michigan, Union Pier
I'm with Ryan, if you're going to leave it outside, clean and clear coat with satin to prevent more rusting and lose of color.
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#699127 - Tue Nov 21 2017 02:45 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
K W FRITH Offline
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Registered: Sun Oct 21 2007
Loc: Devils Lake, ND---USA
It will never be used to pump gas again and it is only original once! I wish I could undo some of the restorations I have done in the past.
Don't get me wrong, as there is a place for restorations on pumps that are cosmetically challenged, but your pump has a patina that took nearly 100 years to produce and is impossible to duplicate. If you want a restored pump, then buy one somewhere. You have a rare treasure in your hands and it should be left as is. Just give it a good cleaning!
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#699128 - Tue Nov 21 2017 02:50 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
cggas Offline
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Registered: Thu Oct 02 2003
Loc: northern in.
And you would be surprised at how much that pump would clean up with some scotchbrite & a scrub brush a lot of the color would come back. But it’s your pump do as you wish. But as Kevin said, I’ve restored a few that now I wish I hadn’t. Chris

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#699130 - Tue Nov 21 2017 03:18 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
dokako Offline
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Registered: Sat Nov 18 2017
Loc: Fond du lac, Wisconsin
Wow, I never considered leaving it as is. In all the years that I have been looking for a pump, I just assumed that I would be restoring it. I don't have any idea of the value of my pump as is or restored, nor is it my #1 concern. However, is it possible to damage the value by restoring it?

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Dokako

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#699132 - Tue Nov 21 2017 03:25 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
minuteman Offline
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Registered: Sat Apr 05 2003
Loc: Big Sky Country
You will not damage the value per say, but likely you will not recover any restoration costs that you incur. And that can amount to quite a bit depending on your level of restoration.

In other words the pumps $$ value would likely be reasonably close if left as is or restored.
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#699133 - Tue Nov 21 2017 03:33 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
Bill jr Offline
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Registered: Sat Aug 27 2011
Loc: Erie Pa
It is nice leave it as is

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#699136 - Tue Nov 21 2017 04:30 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
Jack Sim Offline
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Registered: Fri Nov 10 2000
Loc: St. Louis, MO, USA
Just my opinion, but I like restored pumps. Your pump is the way it looked when they were done with it, not the great way it looked like when it was first set on the island at some station back 90+ years ago.
When I see a pump like yours I think "what a great pump for restoration and it won't take much work to restore it."

Every one of my 500 ECOs that I have sold were all restored.

Again, just my opinion, just what I like.

Jack Sim
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#699137 - Tue Nov 21 2017 04:31 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: Ryan Underthun]
Mike M. Offline
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Registered: Tue Jan 31 2012
Loc: Western, WI.
Originally Posted By Ryan Underthun
I vote to leave it as it is.


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#699141 - Tue Nov 21 2017 04:50 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
Cold Pizza Offline
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Registered: Tue May 17 2005
Loc: Illinois
Your pump is a piece of Americana.It's weathered look is what India knock offs aspire to.
Leave it alone. smile
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#699142 - Tue Nov 21 2017 05:02 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
BrianH Offline
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Registered: Sun May 01 2016
Loc: Midland, Michigan
As others have suggested, give it a gentle cleaning and see how much you like it at that point. You may be very happy with the look after just a light cleaning and you'll save a bundle of $$$. It's only original once, so think carefully before you strip off 90 years of patina.

If you search Oldgas, you will see posts related to getting the inside of that glass cylinder clean without having to disassemble it. Just remember that if it sits outside in the cold, you MUST keep water out of it or the water will freeze inside the cylinder and crack it. That would be a $500 mistake and a waste of an original cylinder which could be difficult to replace.

BrianH

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#699143 - Tue Nov 21 2017 05:17 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
jkyocom Offline
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Registered: Fri Dec 15 2006
Loc: GA
Do it like they did in the old days.
A bucket of paint and a brush. laugh
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#699144 - Tue Nov 21 2017 05:19 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
Corey1955 Online   content
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Registered: Mon Oct 23 2017
Loc: Ohio, Merica
You would be surprised what some dawn dish soap and a stiff nylon brush can do before you decide.

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#699148 - Tue Nov 21 2017 05:38 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
Craig Osbeck Online   content
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Registered: Tue Jan 06 2009
Loc: Portland Oregon
Where is it going to be placed ? Big part of the decision.
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#699149 - Tue Nov 21 2017 05:42 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
Bob Richards Offline
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Registered: Tue Feb 22 2005
Loc: Longview, WA
I will say; that I do not understand the appeal of a weathered Pump that looks nothing like it did when it was in service...

I also do not like the "over the top" restorations. For to me; these Pumps also do not look anything like they did while in service....

I am old enough to remember what it was like to work at a Station during the mid 1960s.... One of the Stations I worked at was a smaller single island Station with a small double Service Bay... We painted the Pumps by hand; we met each Customer with a smile and checked everything... The other Station was much larger and much more Modern... We did not check items, unless asked. Personalized Customer Service was considered "old Fashion" and was not "pushed" as it was at the Smaller Station...

But, when "Push comes to Shove"; the Pump is yours and I do believe that you will follow the path that is right for you. Enjoy your Pump and I hope you will, enjoy the Hobby...
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#699156 - Tue Nov 21 2017 07:02 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: Bob Richards]
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Registered: Fri Dec 06 2002
Loc: Cleveland,Ohio U.S.A.
Really a nice pump there. Just my two cents here. Me, I love items that show their age ,but have aged gracefully -I guess I'd say. IMO, your pump has. Id work some clear pastewax into it with a scotch brite pad and then polish with a rag.Maybe lightly pressure wash the interior. The money that might be put into the restoration , I would put into a one piece Gulf globe.

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#699161 - Tue Nov 21 2017 08:06 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
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Registered: Fri Dec 14 2001
Loc: USA
Leave as is and do not clear coat it.
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#699163 - Tue Nov 21 2017 08:46 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: keithia]
57-Chevy Online   content
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Registered: Fri Oct 13 2000
Loc: Locust, NC
Originally Posted By keithia
Leave as is and do not clear coat it.


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#699165 - Tue Nov 21 2017 09:34 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
Nicole Offline
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Registered: Thu Dec 09 2010
Loc: Maryland
Before you try to remove that glass to clean or restore, please get feedback about it, whether you should even attempt to remove it. I know there are some old posts here with that topic (and would someone better at finding old posts please post a link?). Apparently trying to remove it can result in heartbreak--or more accurately a broken cylinder.

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#699166 - Tue Nov 21 2017 10:40 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
Loyd Pierce Offline
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Registered: Thu Jan 13 2011
Loc: Mt. Juliet, Tenn.
Welcome to Oldgas. The 2 hundred dollar pump. First let me say you got a heck of a deal.
I would restore it I would never be satisfied leaving it as is,every time I walked by it I would think what it could be. Guess its a sickness I have.
Its important that you decide what will make you happy.If its going inside or out would help you decide how far to take it. I wouldn't do a over the top restore if its going outside. Do you plan on keeping it or resale I agree do not restore with the notion of resale as you limit the interest by doing one company or another. Nothing wrong with enjoying it as is. Yes a full restoration is inside and outer skins,outer skins only is just a bandaid but makes sense to me if its going outside.


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#699175 - Wed Nov 22 2017 05:09 AM Re: level of restotation [Re: Nicole]
dokako Offline
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Registered: Sat Nov 18 2017
Loc: Fond du lac, Wisconsin
I believe that removing the glass will be impossible. The glass is cracked about a 1/2" up from the bottom and runs parallel to the bottom about 6" long

Dokako

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#699176 - Wed Nov 22 2017 06:23 AM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
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Registered: Sun Oct 21 2007
Loc: Mass
If you more concerned about value, your profit will be more as it sits now than if you restored it. (99% of the time)
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#699181 - Wed Nov 22 2017 08:07 AM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
BrianH Offline
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Registered: Sun May 01 2016
Loc: Midland, Michigan
Dokako,
The condition of the glass is another reason NOT to restore it. If you try to take the pump apart to restore it, you will likely make that crack worse or break the cylinder entirely, resulting in your having to find another original cylinder of the right size. Those typically run in the $500 range. You CAN fill the cylinder with a cleaning mixture and then drain it out and get a lot of the internal gunk out without ever having to take the pump apart. Seach here on oldgas for posts on how to do that.

BrianH

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#699196 - Wed Nov 22 2017 01:32 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
Speedracer Offline
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Registered: Sat Feb 08 2014
Loc: Michigan, USA (near Chesterfie...
As I said in your other post......

Very nice pump and blue glass to boot. You could add a zero onto that price and still be near 'retail.' Great buy.

I vote to NOT restore it, it looks great the way it is. Put some new wiring in it and throw a globe up top. Admire it for what it is right now, you can always change your mind and restore it down the road, but you can never unrestore it to the great look it has right now.

Or you could just sell it to me for $400 and double your money... Lol. JK. Enjoy it.

-Steve
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#699205 - Wed Nov 22 2017 04:16 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
Wasatch Man Offline
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Registered: Mon Aug 03 2015
Loc: UT
There's no question in my mind what to do . Clean it up as good as you can but don't restore it . Its got a great look already made by the passage of time.

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#699218 - Wed Nov 22 2017 07:58 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: Wasatch Man]
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Registered: Thu Mar 15 2012
Loc: Maltby, WA
You can't restore them to look that good. Clean it up and enjoy it!!
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#699275 - Fri Nov 24 2017 12:39 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
rkmiller Offline
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Registered: Thu Jan 17 2013
Loc: Spring Hill, Kansas
I am with Jack.

The pump is not "original" anymore, it has "patina".

If you like "patina" then leave it. If you like how they looked "original" then restore it.

Just another opinion!
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#699290 - Fri Nov 24 2017 10:42 PM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
model72 Online   content
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Registered: Fri Jun 21 2013
Loc: Dallas, tx
You received the best advice above. Clean what you can, polish it and stand back and decide if you like the way it looks. If not, start the restoration process.

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#699305 - Sat Nov 25 2017 08:58 AM Re: level of restotation [Re: dokako]
dokako Offline
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Registered: Sat Nov 18 2017
Loc: Fond du lac, Wisconsin
My fear of not restoring it is that some areas will continue to rot(rust) away, eventually maybe even collapsing years down the road. We all know what happens to a car once it starts rusting. Wisconsin is not kind to any metal kept outside. Because I was originally looking for a 1950's style pump with a globe, I think I'll keep looking for one. I can always unload this one.

thanks for all the ideas
Dokako

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