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#701157 - Sun Dec 24 2017 10:51 PM Report this FAKE!!
K W FRITH Offline
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Registered: Sun Oct 21 2007
Loc: Devils Lake, ND---USA
Some collectors don't believe it helps to report these fakes to Ebay, but I believe it does. To what extent, I don't know, but to sit on our butts and do nothing is even worse!

Fake Cities Sign


Edited by K W FRITH (Sun Dec 24 2017 10:52 PM)
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Please use For Sale forums to sell

Please - NO offers to Buy or Sell in this forum category

Statements such as, "I'm thinking about selling this." are considered an offer to sell.
#701166 - Mon Dec 25 2017 04:19 AM Re: Report this FAKE!! [Re: K W FRITH]
advertologist Offline
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Registered: Fri Sep 07 2007
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reported done .. ... cool
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#701167 - Mon Dec 25 2017 07:02 AM Re: Report this FAKE!! [Re: K W FRITH]
Corey1955 Offline
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Registered: Mon Oct 23 2017
Loc: Hamilton Ohio
For those of us who are new at this, like me, would you mind please teaching us what about that sign is fake?

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#701173 - Mon Dec 25 2017 08:42 AM Re: Report this FAKE!! [Re: Corey1955]
Kaiserjeepm51 Offline
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Registered: Sun Dec 17 2017
Loc: Indianapolis, Indiana
Originally Posted By Corey1955
For those of us who are new at this, like me, would you mind please teaching us what about that sign is fake?


Agreed please. I took the time to look over all his items for sale and they looked alright to me with an untrained eye. The two things I did notice to be a bit out of place was the hardware store eye bolts and the zip ties in the first picture.
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#701176 - Mon Dec 25 2017 09:12 AM Re: Report this FAKE!! [Re: Corey1955]
Mike M. Offline
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Registered: Tue Jan 31 2012
Loc: Western, WI.
Originally Posted By Corey1955
For those of us who are new at this, like me, would you mind please teaching us what about that sign is fake?


No original curb signs were single sided...defeats the purpose!

Reported Kevin!
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#701178 - Mon Dec 25 2017 09:42 AM Re: Report this FAKE!! [Re: K W FRITH]
Steven C. Online   content
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Loc: MICHIGAN
Reported.
Fair to say the base is real?
What about the frame?
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#701179 - Mon Dec 25 2017 09:47 AM Re: Report this FAKE!! [Re: K W FRITH]
ironheadtom Offline
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Registered: Wed Oct 12 2011
Loc: San Bernardino , Cal. USA
would the sign that fits that frame be clover shaped as well....?


Edited by ironheadtom (Mon Dec 25 2017 09:48 AM)

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#701190 - Mon Dec 25 2017 11:33 AM Re: Report this FAKE!! [Re: Mike M.]
Kaiserjeepm51 Offline
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Registered: Sun Dec 17 2017
Loc: Indianapolis, Indiana
Originally Posted By Mike M.
Originally Posted By Corey1955
For those of us who are new at this, like me, would you mind please teaching us what about that sign is fake?


No original curb signs were single sided...defeats the purpose!

Reported Kevin!


Ok that makes sense, so basically it's a pierced together hodge podge of parts and pices but could all be real not reproductions but over priced as a complete piece.
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#701194 - Mon Dec 25 2017 12:31 PM Re: Report this FAKE!! [Re: K W FRITH]
K W FRITH Offline
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Registered: Sun Oct 21 2007
Loc: Devils Lake, ND---USA
This sign was never used or made for Cities Service Oil Co. It is a modern day, embossed tin, single sided sign. The frame is obviously home made and the only real thing about it would be the cast iron base, although there are reproductions of it floating around too.
As Mike stated, curb signs were made to be seen from both sides and were always made out of heavy material in order to survive out in the elements. The statement that it was made to "swing in the wind" is truly laughable! Curb signs were always at the mercy of the wind and that was why they used cast iron bases.
The true measure of whether or not a collectible is a reproduction, or fantasy, is the old photos that we have and are truly a record of what was actually used! There are all kinds of photos of the actual curb signs used by Cities Service and they were very particular about their signage. They NEVER used tin junk like this to display their logo and name. As a 15 year collector of Cities Service, I have pretty much seen it all and this sign is not one of them.
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#701203 - Mon Dec 25 2017 02:55 PM Re: Report this FAKE!! [Re: K W FRITH]
Corey1955 Offline
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Registered: Mon Oct 23 2017
Loc: Hamilton Ohio
Awesome thanks for taking the time to explain. I kinda figured that it should be double sided and it appeared that someone “hillbillied” it by way it was hung from the pole. But being new at this I would rather ask than put forth my uninformed opinion and look stupid.
Merry Christmas all

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#701209 - Mon Dec 25 2017 03:37 PM Re: Report this FAKE!! [Re: K W FRITH]
Kaiserjeepm51 Offline
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Registered: Sun Dec 17 2017
Loc: Indianapolis, Indiana
Thanks K W Frith for clearing that up and going to depth and details as to what we where really looking at on ebay.
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#701236 - Mon Dec 25 2017 08:01 PM Re: Report this FAKE!! [Re: K W FRITH]
Patina rules Offline
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Registered: Sat Dec 02 2017
Loc: MS
X2 for me. Thank you for taking the time to inform.

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#701340 - Wed Dec 27 2017 07:15 PM Re: Report this FAKE!! [Re: Kaiserjeepm51]
Speedracer Offline
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Registered: Sat Feb 08 2014
Loc: Michigan, USA (near Chesterfie...
Originally Posted By Kaiserjeepm51
Originally Posted By Corey1955
For those of us who are new at this, like me, would you mind please teaching us what about that sign is fake?


Agreed please. I took the time to look over all his items for sale and they looked alright to me with an untrained eye. The two things I did notice to be a bit out of place was the hardware store eye bolts and the zip ties in the first picture.


Just because you look at a guys other items and they look alright to you... don't judge a book by its cover, unless you are knowledgeable and know for sure if an item is real. Do you know if all those patches are real? They fake tons of patches from gas stations, to police departments, to WWII. Do states really waste paint on the back side of those original license plates? If so, which states do and don't, etc. [By the way, I'm not saying those items are fake, I don't know. I'm just using this as an example of the many questions to ask yourself]. The moral of the story is, do a lot of research before you buy from an unknown seller on eBay.

And don't think a seller is good just because his stuff 'looks' okay, especially if you have an "untrained" eye.

Please don't be offended by this, I am trying to help you and other new members who read it.

Don't buy anything from eBay, unless you are 100% positive it is real. And if you are unsure, I would ask the experts here for advice. Looks can be very deceiving.

By the way, his Kendall sign is just pieced together as well.

-Steve


Edited by Speedracer (Wed Dec 27 2017 07:28 PM)
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#701352 - Thu Dec 28 2017 05:11 AM Re: Report this FAKE!! [Re: K W FRITH]
Corey1955 Offline
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Registered: Mon Oct 23 2017
Loc: Hamilton Ohio
Your statements are why I asked so in the future I can be more discerning. A amateur like me has to start somewhere. I figure asking questions is a good way to start. And no I’m not offended by any means, constructive criticism is a part of learning if one is smart enough to understand it’s meant to help.

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#701387 - Thu Dec 28 2017 05:34 PM Re: Report this FAKE!! [Re: K W FRITH]
tokig Offline
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Registered: Wed Dec 20 2017
Loc: West Virginia
How can you have thread without meaningful photos or documents?
hope this is authentic.



Edited by tokig (Thu Dec 28 2017 05:36 PM)

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