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NATIONAL 69 C gas pump question #703684
Thu Feb 01 2018 09:54 PM
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I ran across a National 69C gas pump in my travels today. The doors were in a pile of about 100 and I don't think they are correct. Does anyone have a picture of a complete one?
Is it a fairly rare pump? I have not seen one before. Thanks, Jim

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Re: NATIONAL 69 C gas pump question [Re: Young's Union] #703689
Thu Feb 01 2018 11:31 PM
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There is a picture of the 69C on this page of my website. It is the bottom picture. Basically the 69C is a Tall Tokhein 39 with a National top.
http://petrolianacollectibles.com/national%2069c.htm

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Re: NATIONAL 69 C gas pump question [Re: Young's Union] #703703
Fri Feb 02 2018 09:41 AM
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Jim I think you better send the pump over to me. I'll keep it for you. Richard

Re: NATIONAL 69 C gas pump question [Re: gatorgaspumps] #703771
Sat Feb 03 2018 11:55 AM
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Has anyone restored one -- with pictures?

Jim


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Re: NATIONAL 69 C gas pump question [Re: Young's Union] #703774
Sat Feb 03 2018 12:18 PM
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I have not seen one of these restored. I have seen pictures of them at gas shows. They seem to be a uncommon pump. As mentioned above it is a tall version of a National A-60 series pump ( A-62, A-64, A-66). If you have some Union ad glass for it, it would look good restored in 76.


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Re: NATIONAL 69 C gas pump question [Re: MATT ALVAREZ] #703782
Sat Feb 03 2018 03:53 PM
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Matt-

What sparked my interest was that the main pump body is painted UNION 76 colors. I do have NOS UNION ad glass for one. But this pump is missing correct doors. Do tall Tokheim 39 doors have ad glass in the top of them? Computer is junk in this one. Computer faceplates are missing. Top is missing.


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Re: NATIONAL 69 C gas pump question [Re: Young's Union] #703803
Sat Feb 03 2018 09:36 PM
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Those doors will work. There are two styles, one with a large window and one with a small. Yours is the large. I like the large better, it has more style. Here is a tall 39 with no ad glass. If it had a National top on it, it would look like yours.

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Re: NATIONAL 69 C gas pump question [Re: Young's Union] #703811
Sat Feb 03 2018 10:59 PM
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As I mentioned above, the pump is a tall 39 with a National top. National had become part of Tokheim in 1947 (for a small history of National see this page of my website: http://petrolianacollectibles.com/company_histories.htm) . The date states 1948, but this is incorrect, it is 1947. No pumps that were being made by National prior to the acquacation were ever made again, what Tokheim did was just make the tall 39 but put a top on it that looked like the previous National pumps.
The inside of your pump is Tokheim 39. The faces are identical to the Tokheim faces, they just say National.

The 62 series National pumps mentioned above were short Tokheim 39, again with a National looking top. Also, the pumps were made in Ft. Wayne, not in Cincinnati, Ohio.

All the differences in the 39 are explained on this page of my website: http://petrolianacollectibles.com/tokheim%2039%20tall.htm
What applied to the Tokheim also included the National. Notice there were two different tall 39s.

Jack Sim

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Re: NATIONAL 69 C gas pump question [Re: Jack Sim] #703840
Sun Feb 04 2018 11:29 AM
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Thanks for all the good info. jim


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