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Question about Tokheim 340 Lubester #729237
Thu May 09 2019 10:19 AM
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I picked up this Tokheim 340 Lubester. Thanks to Swabby for getting me a glass tube for one of the oil pumps! I installed metal plates for trays. I also made matching wood handles. Also I know I have incorrectly badged it a Texaco and it should be a Gulf. But I already had the Texaco Lubster Plate...so I used it. I was thinking about restoring it but my Wayne Visible is also not restored...by choice.

So here is my question. It will be staying in my garage, out of the weather...but do I need to worry about further rusting? Is there something I need to do to protect it or will it be good just as it sets?

Thanks for any helpful thoughts!
Steve

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Re: Question about Tokheim 340 Lubester [Re: Stephenwarren30] #729258
Thu May 09 2019 07:58 PM
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Have it powder coated.

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Re: Question about Tokheim 340 Lubester [Re: Stephenwarren30] #729296
Fri May 10 2019 05:19 PM
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I dont think it'll rust that badly sitting in your garage as is. Im generally a fan of restored, but when I do patina, I typically apply a matte clear coat if I dont know where it's going so rust wont shed off on peoples living room carpet. O'reilly Auto Parts sells some really easy matte lacquer clear, about $40 a quart, no mixing required but sprayed with a gun, dries super fast. It also mildly enhances the contrast between rust and not rust areas, looks better IMO.

Re: Question about Tokheim 340 Lubester [Re: Stephenwarren30] #729321
Sat May 11 2019 11:14 AM
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Thanks Paul...so you would spray the matte clear coat right over the rust? Or would you need to do anything else?

Re: Question about Tokheim 340 Lubester [Re: Stephenwarren30] #729416
Mon May 13 2019 04:40 AM
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Just picked this up yesterday.

Older restoration. Complete and solid.

There’s a little spotting of rust inside. Was planning to blast the inside with fluid film since I want to display it outside by my garage.

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Re: Question about Tokheim 340 Lubester [Re: Stephenwarren30] #729437
Mon May 13 2019 02:22 PM
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Steve, I would take the signs off, clean it very well with a hose and scrub to remove dirt and loose rust (use acetone or lacquer thinner if there are oily areas to deal with), mask off the glass, and spray it with the clear I mentioned right over the rust. It's not hard, but you dont want to bury dirt in clear so a little TLC is needed. Here's a galvanized windmill tail I buried in clear for your reference, sorry I dont have a before picture, it adds a little contrast but now doesnt flake/shed at all. - Paul

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Re: Question about Tokheim 340 Lubester [Re: Stephenwarren30] #729440
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Thanks Paul!

Re: Question about Tokheim 340 Lubester [Re: Stephenwarren30] #729441
Mon May 13 2019 06:37 PM
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Another option is boiled linseed oil. Careful with disposed rags when using boiled linseed oil.
Google subject if you are not aware.
A thin coat first applied and dry, followed by another and one can get a beautiful clear finish that really sticks to rusted surfaces. Here is just one random example pulled from the web for a visual. 1/2 was applied boiled linseed oil.

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Re: Question about Tokheim 340 Lubester [Re: Stephenwarren30] #729443
Tue May 14 2019 12:26 AM
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I personally don’t like the matte finish if you want it to look almost exactly the same, use FLAT clear. You will still get some of the contrast to pop as mentioned above and no more rust will flake off.

Buy a few rattle cans of matte and flat and try it on some old rusty metal first and see what you like.

But with all of that being said, I wouldn’t do either. If it’s just going to be in your garage, it will hardly rust any further for years to come.

Just my 2cents,
Steve

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Re: Question about Tokheim 340 Lubester [Re: Stephenwarren30] #729444
Tue May 14 2019 02:23 AM
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Thanks Steve...I appreciate your input!
Steve

Re: Question about Tokheim 340 Lubester [Re: Stephenwarren30] #729445
Tue May 14 2019 04:35 AM
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No problem. It’s really just preference. I’ve had rusty pumps in my garage for years and they never got worse... because they’re not getting wet and they’re not in the dirt/mud. And I don’t put anything on them.

However, one nice thing about flat or matte clear, is when you touch it, you don’t get the rust on your hands, walls or carpet, etc. (but I don’t think this would be a concern for a garage lubster).

Here is a tailgate I did in flat clear, so the backside didn’t get the wall dirty.


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Re: Question about Tokheim 340 Lubester [Re: Speedracer] #729452
Tue May 14 2019 09:02 AM
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Boiled linseed oil.

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Re: Question about Tokheim 340 Lubester [Re: Stephenwarren30] #729454
Tue May 14 2019 09:45 AM
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Thank everyone for the ideas and input!!!
Steve

Re: Question about Tokheim 340 Lubester [Re: Stephenwarren30] #729460
Tue May 14 2019 11:49 AM
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Matte has just a smudge more gloss in it than flat, personal preference thing. The rattle cans are such a pain for large items, harbor freight sells a $15 gun that works great for spraying clear. Just sprays so much faster and better, cheaper too. Something like this you can really do in your backyard if need be, dries so fast being lacquer. Here's a pump I did with clear....

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Re: Question about Tokheim 340 Lubester [Re: Paul Bell] #729464
Tue May 14 2019 12:55 PM
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Paul,
Your pump looks killer!
That picture has convinced me to keep an original patina on whatever gas pump I end up with.
Had been going between a paint perfect total restoration vs. keeping one with its original patina.
This thread has been excellent in making up my mind on the subject.

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