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Sinclair Station- The Renovation begins
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Hi all-
We purchased an old Sinclair station several months ago and finally took possession. The station had, unfortunately, been neglected for many years due to lack of funds. We've been working like crazy for 2 weeks to get the buildings emptied out so we could get a handle on what is needed for the renovation. The additional building is probably going to end up requiring more rehab than the station- today the roof on the station is being replaced and when they pulled off the bad roof, 99% of the water damage was restricted to the main office area. So that's being addressed and the roof should be finished up tomorrow. The secondary building is probably going to require significant re-framing.
Part of the original tile roof trim was removed years ago, but fortunately the previous owner just left the tiles on the roof. We removed those and are going to re-do the original tile trim, and found a supply for the original 1937 tiles and have a shipment on the way. The interior of the station was full of clutter, and 90% of that is gone. The paint is coming off quite nicely with a pressure washer, so plans are to re-painting the bay to the original green/white color scheme.
The one exterior bathroom had been boarded up for more than 30 years. We removed the steel plate, and shoveled out loads of debris. After all the junk was taken out, the majority of the stall woodwork is going to need minimal repair to restore. The door is totally gone, but we'll find one to replace it.
The interior of the secondary building had been paneled over the years and pulling that out is a pain, but we're getting down to the original walls pretty quick. Once everything is out, plans are to go back with runners and sheetrock/insulate the interior. Going to leave the ceilings out and sprayfoam insulate the buildings. Then it's time to address the windows. I'd like to keep most of the old metal ones, but will probably go with double-pane insulated ones in the office area.

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Cool project. Have fun with it. What's the outside of the overall building look like (unless you'd rather not post)?


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WOW now there is a project worth committing time and effort too. Keep us posted on the progress. AND YES enjoy the process.

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You have made a tremendous amount of progress in a short amount of time! Congratulations!!

Speedracer, here you go! http://www.oldgas.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=130778&Number=751938#Post751938


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a project that will reap many rewards .. ... cool


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Cant wait to see it progress, wish I had your ambition

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Great project with lots of work ahead but no shortage of zeal judging by your note above. Should be a dandy restoration.

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Thanks for the link Jim, I just looked at the pics of the outside..... WOW, is that ever cool !!!!


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Thanks for the kind words, everyone. Yes, we've made good progress- I don't want this project to "drag on" because I already have my eye on the next one...:)
For this one I'm forgoing using a GC- we have a good electrician, good roofer, good HVAC guy, etc.
Today was supposed to be spent getting the roof finished up but it's pouring outside. I'll never complain about rain.
Yesterday they pulled the old roof- the previous owner had stapled a tarp to the ceiling instead of fixing the roof- it was sheets of tin that leaked. But once they stripped all the old roof, it wasn't bad- the damage was confined to over the "office" area- the wood over the canopy and bays is in good shape. After fixing the rotted wood and plugging the holes, we're going back over the whole roof with 1/2" decking before the roof material goes on.

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Inside, the bay area is cleaning up nicely. Once the roof is finished we'll be doing a lot of power washing to strip the old paint. Yesterday I took a closer look at all the bay windows- and unfortunately the bottom metal is completely corroded/rusted away. So that makes the decision to go with double pane replacements easier, and they will undoubtedly be more energy efficient in the long run.
The old vacuum cleaners were still in the bay in a recessed compartment, but they were beyond saving. Did save the old lift tank and I'm going to refinish it.

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The other evening I decided to check and see if the canopy wiring was still good. Replaced all 4 of the bulbs (I'll bet they had been burned out for 25 years) and they all work. We're in a debate right now about how to address the tin ceiling under the canopy. There are a couple of rusted patches that I want to repair to keep out birds and wasps. A guy here in town that has old buildings says you can patch them by taking some strips of hammered tin, then inserting them in the holes and epoxy them in place then paint. I am leaning towards doing that, and painting the ceiling white, but the Missus is leaning towards just spraying the tin with a sealer and leaving it as is. I guess we'll decide that after the stucco/tile/paint work is done.

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What a cool project!!! I am with your wife.....no paint on the ceiling.

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Originally Posted by yeley101
no paint on the ceiling.

fantastic patina .. ... cool


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Interesting project! Is this in Dallas?

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I'm with your wife also. Leave the patina. White paint just says you are trying to cover up something---- just my 2 cents.


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Update- roof is on! Yay! No more leaking. They managed to get on the decking and tar paper before the bottom dropped out, so a full day of rain happened. Of course that leaked through everywhere, but it actually helped "demo" some of the ceiling in the office area. That is almost complete now- the ceiling is heavy! Metal mesh lath with concrete/plaster.
Looked over the bay windows again and had a 48-years of experience glass man come out and he said "no problem" so we're going to replace every pane of glass in all 6 of the bay/back office windows. And meeting with a glass company this morning to get measurements and an estimate for the office glass re-do.
It's coming along. Having it "dried-in" is a big help.
Should be getting interior and exterior pressure washing done this week or next.
Received my shipment of replacement (original reclaimed) roof tiles last week. Found a guy with 5 million reclaimed tiles and he had everything we needed to replace the tile roof. Now just need to find someone that knows how to install them....

And you guys are right- we're going to leave the patina ceiling smile

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Thanks for the update. It's amazing how much progress has been made so far!


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Cool project. The original signs are somewhat common but prices on nice clean porcelain is strong right now. I would go with original signs if possible.

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Originally Posted by Wes Maxwell
Cool project. The original signs are somewhat common but prices on nice clean porcelain is strong right now. I would go with original signs if possible.

Good luck

Wes

That's my intention- based on "scars" on the building it looks like I need 3 large (for the canopy) SINCLAIR signs, then maybe 2 vertical Pennsylvania or Opalene. Not sure I'll be able to secure them all, so maybe 2 large then a "ring sign" on the front. I definitely want the "Washing" and Lubrication" ones, though....

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That's awesome I could live out rest of my life there.i have a 14'roof topper would look sweet on top of spaghetti there.

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What a cool project!!! Keep
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Last week made a little more progress on the station- complete pressure wash of the outside and inside the bays. A lot of the bad paint came off, and subsequent to drying out it looks like it would benefit from another round of spraying inside the bays so that's coming up pretty soon. Shifting work to the windows now- I know it seems like I'm bipolar on some of this but we did decide to keep the old metal windows in the bay, the back storeroom and the bathrooms. Found a local guy that retired with 48 years experience in glasswork and he's going to start replacing every pane in the windows next week. A couple of the windows were rusted out along the bottom, but I think I've come up with a fix that'll work. Spent a couple hours yesterday evening with a hammer and chisel, chipping out the concrete where the metal frame used to be. Used a grinder to cut off the bottoms of the frame and have one of the windows getting close to ready. A piece of 1 1/2" square tubing fits nicely in the hole, and 1/4"x1/4" angle, when welded to the 1 1/2" tubing, will provide a good base for the window to sit on.
I've never seen concrete like the bases of the windowsill. Hard as granite and had all sizes of flint pebbles in it. Made for interesting chiseling.

One of the "good" windows, then the two "not-so-good" ones....

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Really like what your doing here ! Man” s/ Ladies dream getaway . Thanks for posting your progress . Look forward to seeing more .


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More progress- window guy is doing great work breathing life back into the old bay windows. They are almost all cleaned out now and, once they're wire brushed will be ready for the new glass.
Had a guy make one full pass through with a pressure washer and a lot of the paint is coming off. Let it sit a couple of weeks and I bit the bullet and bought a pressure washer and have been working my way around the bay again. It's going to be ready for paint pretty soon, hopefully. Working on spec-ing out the bay doors now, it's taking a little bit of work since most of the suppliers are nowhere close to local.
Knocked out the partition wall between the bay and the office and it really makes a difference. Going to go back in the opening with some double-pane glass. Evolving plans again, we've decided to re-do the ceilings in the office/storeroom/bathroom area after foaming. The ceiling will give it a much cleaner, original look and will definitely help with energy efficiency.

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You have made quite a bit of progress! That station is cleaning up nicely. Thanks for the update.


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More progress- the windows have now been painted and ready for glass to start going in this week. The color really "pops" and will be very nice against the new white walls when they're done.
Also tore out the old "countertops" that were in the office area to get ready for the window replacement- found a few termites so I'm glad I did expose them. Ordering of the bay doors should happen today- talked to the supplier on Friday and they said we're looking at a 3-4 week delivery time.
I took a heat gun to the brown paint on the "Men's room" door and it's beautiful wood underneath, so I am hoping I can get it completely stripped and back to it's original glory. Interesting that the men's room was inside the office area and the ladies room is outside- I guess there were fewer ladies needing accommodation back in the 30's...
I also tried the heat gun on the transom windows- they are ridged glass and, over the years, the owners had painted BOTH SIDES, but the paint didn't melt away like I had hoped. Still working on what to do there.

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First, super restoration project and love your restoring a piece of Americana.
Understand you want original Sinclair, Washing, and Lubrication porcelain signs.

Consider having a local painter/artist paint on the building surface(s) scale sized painted signs.
Then as you can acquire originals, hang them directly over each hand-painted place holder.
Find a local high school art department or local artist that needs some work during CV19 times.

This would provide a nice look/theme on the building while giving you time to acquire all the original porcelains.

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I'm following. Very cool!


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Originally Posted by smokey1
First, super restoration project and love your restoring a piece of Americana.
Understand you want original Sinclair, Washing, and Lubrication porcelain signs.

Consider having a local painter/artist paint on the building surface(s) scale sized painted signs.
Then as you can acquire originals, hang them directly over each hand-painted place holder.
Find a local high school art department or local artist that needs some work during CV19 times.

This would provide a nice look/theme on the building while giving you time to acquire all the original porcelains.

I’d like to find the original signs- that’s a given. There was a local artist that did a lot of building lettering and murals in a nearby town, but I haven’t seen him around lately. The “sign-searching” will start in earnest pretty soon, but there seems to be a lot of folks out there that are fond of Sinclair stuff...

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Glass is going in- bay is almost re-glassed, working his way around. Still looking for a way to get paint off the ridged windows! I think we have decided to keep the transoms and had to order one piece online.

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Cleaning out the back room and found 3 nozzles. One is still in the box but the box is falling apart. I guess these are from the 40's?

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Another update. All the exterior steel-frame glass has now been replaced. The bathroom glass turned out really nice. Spent part of 2 days up on the ladder cleaning the paint off the "marker" tiles- the north wall ones are in really good shape and they cleaned up nicely. I can't believe they had painted over them. Began the process of cleaning the roof tiles- the process is apply stripper, scrape, more stripper, scrape, wipe off, more scrape, etc..... It's going to take a while but the tiles are cleaning up pretty well.
Today the gutters are going up on the back, tomorrow more demo in the secondary building. I was able to find a local young guy that's a fireman and he's been doing some demo- finished up the ceiling removal in the station and now he's gutting the secondary building.
The bay doors are on order and should be in in a couple of weeks. At that time I'll get the "office" glass installed- the countertops are removed and there is just a small amount of water-damaged wood to replace so that should go pretty easy.
I started cleaning the ridged transom glass- what a job! The previous owners painted inside and out. The outside is smooth so that's basically brush on acetone, wait, then scrape with a razor blade. The inside is ridged so it's acetone, rub, acetone, rub, acetone, wire brush, etc... But they are so pretty when cleaned may end up keeping them....

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Those tiles look great! Nice work.

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Every time you post photos of your progress my back hurts! Seriously, I am really impressed with how much you have accomplished as well as how nice all the completed work looks. I wish you much continued success and look forward to the next update,


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Amazing job every time I view your progress it impresses me . Can’t wait to see it finished .


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Thanks, guys. It's progressing faster than I had hoped. More demo tomorrow, and sometime this week a new "ladies room" outside door should be in. I really can't wait for the exterior paint- it's going to really make it "pop".

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ABSOLUTELY, one of the coolest projects I've seen done with an old station. You are doing a FABULOUS job on the restoration, congrats! Would be my dream to be able to do a restoration as that! Wish I lived closer as I would help you for free!. Will keep watching, and keep up the GREAT work!


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Not much progress the last week as "real work" has ratcheted way up. I was at the station one day, though, and a friend drove up and said he had an old picture of the original station. I was glad to get it, now I know what the signage looked like. Too bad there was a camper in the way!
I did manage to locate enough 4x4 green tiles to replace all of the broken ones, so that was a win.

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That is cool that you got an original picture. The gas pump looks like a Bennett 371 or 541. Sinclair used Bennett pumps more than any other manufacturer.


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Was able to get a little work done on the bathrooms. The men’s room is going to get fresh paint and the old sink and toilet seem to be useable.
The ladies room “napkin” dispenser and paper towel holder may be salvageable too- going to take some detailed photos, then see if I can get the rust off and repaint them.
The bathroom door was installed today and I got it all caulked up- hope to get the wood primed tomorrow if real work allows it.
A piece of ridged glass will be ordered for the transom.
Still waiting on bay doors and glass.

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Thanks for the update! I am enjoying watching the progress you are making, although I know you have to be even more pleased than all of us keeping tabs. Keep up the good work!!!


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What a great project. Well worth the doing. I look forward to your updates and have enjoyed every one of them. Thanks - Jack J.

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Any updates for us?

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Originally Posted by Skydog
Any updates for us?

Greg

Things have been slow with the holidays and work. I did get a call that the new bay doors are in and they want to install this week. Have to make sure the welder is available to build the center support. Been having an exceedingly difficult time finding anyone to do some framing and put the ceilings back in. Slow going, but that seems to be the common case- it's sad how hard it is to find someone that actually wants to work and then follows through....

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This is really cool to see unfold. I just drove through Dallas this past Saturday and would've loved to see this. But... just came from Tulsa headed to Houston and was already tired and wanted to beat that weather that was on the way.

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Originally Posted by DH44
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Any updates for us?

Greg

Things have been slow with the holidays and work. I did get a call that the new bay doors are in and they want to install this week. Have to make sure the welder is available to build the center support. Been having an exceedingly difficult time finding anyone to do some framing and put the ceilings back in. Slow going, but that seems to be the common case- it's sad how hard it is to find someone that actually wants to work and then follows through....

I totally understand your issue, it is hard to find contractors that are willing to take on a small job for a one time customer.
Good ones are tied up with builders that keep them busy, till they're not...
This happened to me in 2009, I closed my Cabinet shop when the bottom fell out of new housing.
Show us those doors when they are in!
Greg

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Doors are in! Should be finished up tomorrow.

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Looking good!


Regards, Jim

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That sure set’s that front off . Looking good and you sure have a gem there .Can’t wait to see it finished . I am jealous you are getting to live your dream . Love the updates . Keep on keeping on .


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Awesome project and looking good!! You can even see where the Washing and Lubrication signs were at!


Drive with Care and Buy Sinclair!! I buy Sinclair globes, signs, cans, ect.
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Finished up- really nice job on the fit. The doors are chain-host operated. The doors help dampen the road noise considerably.

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huge project - big results - most big exterior projects look too be complete,

you appear too be rounding 2nd base & heading too home on exterior work .. ... cool


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Looks great! I'm really enjoying following your progress on this. Kudos to you for taking on this project.


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