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#754227 Sun Sep 06 2020 07:04 AM
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Hi everyone
I bought this pump and starting to investigate it parts I noticed a hole pattern for a pump plate. Seems to be a early model pump.
Looks like plate would be large. What is the most likely look of the face?
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I'm guessing this style. But what is correct? Blue 200? or something else?
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Yes, certainly that version pump plate is what fit the hole pattern...the originals have all the mounting studs to fit that pattern. As for which one would be correct, I have no idea as I'm not a Sunoco guy. Hopefully one of our resident Sunoco experts can help with that question.
Neat pump....I have one too but the computer and faces were switched over in the 70's for 4 digit readout, so it just doesn't have the same presence as an all original one.
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Yes it is hard to find with two digit computers for sure. This one is tagged as last inspected in 1981. Shape is right , was thinking what lettering and if it would have numbers along with sunoco blue face.
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I haven't yet removed the aluminum tape to expose the holes. But a quick search on the plate studs look like there is too many holes in my door from the plates I've found
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As I peel back the decals more original stuff starts showing.
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Here again, hopefully a Sunoco collector who knows the ins and outs of these plates will help, but they may have come with different numbers of studs......

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Thank you . that is very helpful. I opened the holes to get measurements on what to look for. The pattern in your pictures looks the same as my pattern.
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Here is a post I found here on old gas that appears to answer my question. From carolinatraveller


Here is the story on the sign. In 1956 Sun Oil began experimenting with their Custom Blend pumps. The first group, found only in Florida, use a pump plate similar to the standard one in use at the time, the small Blue Sunoco diamond and the porcelain vertical stripes. Only difference was that this Blue Sunoco diamond had an extremely thick blue border. I have only ever seen one of these, and I have it in my collection. The second generation Custom Blend pump plate is the porcelain blue upper and lower section Blue Sunoco plate, with studs on the back. These were in common use by 1957-58 and used through about 1970. The older signs not immediately removed, but new Custom Blenders installed after about 1970 feature a decal of the then current logo, with the diagonal arrow, with only the word Sunoco, not blue Sunoco. These are the only pump plates ever used on Custom Blenders.
So what about the 200, 200X, and 190 plates? Well, while every Sunoco station was equipped with a Custom Blender pump by about 1958, the new blenders were not installed in every fueling position. Older pumps, usually the old M&S80 series pumps that had been in use since the late 1940s, were repurposed to sell only Sunoco's regular grade, which was Blue Sunoco 200. The older pumps that remained in use in the 1958-1965 or so era displayed the Blue Sunoco 200 plates, or the 200X for a temporary product promotion. The 190 plates, which were all tin as far as I have ever seen, were used in this same manner when Blue Sunoco 190 was introduced as a sub-regular grade, in 1961 I believe. Anyway, by 1965 or so most Sunoco stations had nothing but Custom Blender pumps, in every position, and the older pumps, along with the 200, 200X and 190 signs were no longer in use.
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And the picture of the pump is gold to help me with my pump!



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Just guessing here, but the computer is dated 1965 so I think it was changed to a five price pump , holes filled in lower doors and decal applied. Thoughts?
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