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Mobilgas scriptop variations #7997
Mon Sep 26 2005 06:49 PM
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I purchased a real nice steel Mobilgas Special scriptop this weekend,only to find when I got it home that the script is different from the one I already have.(ouch!)The "a" in the word Mobilgas is closed rather than open.Does anyone know the time frame for this variation?Is there any chance of finding replacement scripts?I would even like to find a decent used set.I will try to post a picture,or get Doc or Hubba to help so you can see the difference.Thanks, Tim

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Re: Mobilgas scriptop variations #7998
Mon Sep 26 2005 07:08 PM
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HOW THIS FOR "QUICK?"......

TIM'S DILEMMA....



HOPE SOMEONE CAN SHED LIGHT ON THIS.....no pun intended!

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Re: Mobilgas scriptop variations #7999
Tue Sep 27 2005 06:02 PM
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If you refer to page 253 of the "Guide to Gas Pump Restoration" the Mobil Shields show BOTH the "Serif" A, and the "Round" A used between 1945 and 1955, without any reason as to why two different "A"s are used...

Where are the MOBIL guys?


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Re: Mobilgas scriptop variations #8000
Tue Sep 27 2005 08:46 PM
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The "serif" or open "a" is the older version......but I don't know the date of the change to the "round" or closed "a".


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Re: Mobilgas scriptop variations #8001
Tue Sep 27 2005 09:33 PM
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I have been trying to get information about this, but no-one seem to know for sure. As for pump plates (shields) the most common plates started using the closed "a" in 1946. The open a was used on the key hole- and square tin plates as well as decals, before the war. The open a seems to be used after WW2 only in the more uncommon plates like aircraft, marine and some plates from the Magnolia area (which are hard to date properly).
If you look at plates available for sale, the open a is extremely rare and I have only seen it on ebay a couple of times since 1999 when I started to look.
In advertising, the change over was a couple of years later. I checked this on lots of ads sold on ebay a couple of years back, and the open a was common until 1948.

rgds,
Claes

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Re: Mobilgas scriptop variations #8002
Thu Sep 29 2005 06:05 AM
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**Wow I never knew they had two versions!!I have five script tops and never knew there could be a difference,how do you get the new inserts for that style,there not repoped are they??

Re: Mobilgas scriptop variations #8003
Thu Sep 29 2005 07:42 PM
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Petroholic,That's the problem here for sure.I don't think anyone repops these inserts.My only hope is to find a decent used set or maybe N.O.S.?(dream on!)Having new inserts would make this a nice rare variation that would probably be worth a tidy sum,but without them it's probably the most expensive bucket I've ever bought!LOL!By the way this is the second one I've owned.The last one had the inserts intact.

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Re: Mobilgas scriptop variations #8004
Fri Sep 30 2005 09:23 AM
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Making an insert should not be too hard or too difficult. Check your local yellow pages for vacuum formers, they may also be under sign shops or specialty packaging. The mold is relatively simple and the size isn't unreasonable so anyone with the vacuum form equipment could do a couple easily. Just use an extruded acrylic, polycarb or buterate not styrene.

Re: Mobilgas scriptop variations #8005
Thu Dec 15 2005 10:05 PM
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check out ebay auction #7204994843.Another example of the script top variation.I wonder if the high bidder knows how tough it's going to be to find inserts?

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Re: Mobilgas scriptop variations #8006
Fri Dec 16 2005 08:20 AM
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Morning Tim there was a outfit in Portland that was doing a repo of the open style, maybe they can do the closed style also. The problem is I don't remember their name. You might check with Slama he might know. Richard

Re: Mobilgas scriptop variations #8007
Fri Dec 16 2005 01:21 PM
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Just for your information, back in the 1950s when one of the letters on these tops would break you could order just the broken letter, you didn't have to replace the complete insert. This applied for all Mibil, Conoco and Sunoco tops.
One more thing, years ago a collector called me up to tell me he had come across a Mobil scrip top that had a cutout of a Pegasus below the word Mobilgas. May have been an expermental, but it would sure be neat.
Jack Sim



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