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#82321 - Fri Jul 20 2007 06:54 AM July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gatorgaspumps Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
The POTM for July is Tokheim 39 Talls. There are numerous versions of this pump.

The Tokheim 39-ESP was produced between 1938 and 1958, and was a computer pump with a hanging hose.

The Tokheim 39-HR was produced between 1939 and 1958, and was a four add glass panel pump with a hose on a reel.

There was also another Tokheim 39-HR produced between 1948 to 1951, which was a two add glass panel pump with a hose reel and roller guards near the bottom.

The Tokheim 39-WNC-HR was produced between 1939 and 1958, and was a two add glass panel pump with a hose reel.

The Tokheim 39-WNC was produced between 1939 and 1958, and was a non-computing pump with two add glass panels and a hanging hose.

The Tokheim 39-SL was produced between 1939 and 1958, and was a two add glass panel pump, with a stationliter.

The Tokheim 39-TW was produced between 1939 and 1958, and was a Tidewater special pump, with four add glass panels. It also had a all glass globe.

I have also seen a Tokheim 39-VP with two and four add glass panels, and hanging hose. A Tokheim 39-WNC-VP, which was a non computing pump with four add glass panel, with hanging hose.


For the breakdown of the pump I will do the Tokheim 39-VP two and four add glass version.



I have seen two different bases for this pump. The upper base is cast and was used on the four add glass pump. The one on the bottom is steel and was used on the two add glass pump. Someone cut a piece out of this base on the upper right corner. The bases are 19" X 24".



The door latch assy. on the top is used on the cast base. The one on the bottom is used on the steel base. The pivot point goes on the side with the hose outlet.







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#82322 - Fri Jul 20 2007 07:18 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gatorgaspumps Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
The picture on the top shows the legs which are 69 3/4" long. It also shows the frame top and short stabilizer bars. The picture on the bottom shows how these pieces fit together on the top. The hinge brackets go on the side with the hose outlet.



This is the light assy., with push button on and off switch. The push button goes on the side with the hose outlet.




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#82323 - Fri Jul 20 2007 07:28 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gatorgaspumps Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
These pictures show the manifold with spinners. All of the spinners that I have found are broken or break when I disassemble them. There are reproductions but I prefer to make my own. I use the original center piece and cut new pieces out of light tin and paint them with bright red and hunter green rattle can paint. I then insert them into the original center and put a 5/16" retaining ring for a spacer. A touch of JB weld or supper glue will hold them in place.









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#82324 - Fri Jul 20 2007 07:41 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
I have seen two different hinges on the tall 39. The one on the left is the normal one found on the pump. The one on the right is a two-piece hinge and is usually found on some 39 short pumps. I have seen this hinge on a tall pump but some one might have used it after breaking a hinge. There is a right and left hinge, as shown in the picture.


The pictures shows the pieces that hold the meter to the frame. The picture on the top shows the cast style that is used on the four add glass pump. The picture in the middle and on the bottom shows the one used on the two add glass pump. The single mount side goes on the side with the hose outlet.










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#82325 - Fri Jul 20 2007 07:53 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gatorgaspumps Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
The top picture shows the nozzle hanger and shut off. The bottom picture shows the turn back assy.




The doors are 70" long and are not interchangeable from front to back


This picture shows the brackets used to hold the front window and add glass to the door. The rubber spacer that I have removed between the door and glass was round stock, and I use a clear stock, you can pick up at most hardware stores. Some people have started using the R101 channel rubber for the spacer.




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#82326 - Fri Jul 20 2007 08:09 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gatorgaspumps Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
The sides are 72 1/2" tall. The third picture down shows the door trim that fits between the add glass and the window. The picture on the bottom shows the hose outlet cover and nozzle receiver, and nozzle receiver bezel.










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#82327 - Fri Jul 20 2007 08:19 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gatorgaspumps Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
This is the top with the trim piece.




Well that's it for the breakdown, now lets see some pictures of pumps. I would be glad to post any pictures for you just send them to me. Richard

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#82328 - Fri Jul 20 2007 08:34 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gatorgaspumps Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
I might have had too many silver bullets when I took this picture. The color code for this pump is PPG DCC 11457 Blue, 80808 Yellow


The color code for this pump is PPG DCC 70184SC Red, and DCC Black


The color code for this pump is PPG DCC 70184SC Red, 43706 Green




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#82329 - Fri Jul 20 2007 08:43 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gatorgaspumps Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
The color code for this pump is PPG DCC 90990 White Vanilla, the yellow was a mixture of several yellow colors.


The color code for this pump is PPG DCC 18270SC Blue, and 82773H Yellow.


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#82330 - Fri Jul 20 2007 10:40 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
Tom Stover Offline
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Registered: Sun Oct 07 2001
Loc: Left Coast
Richard, don't worry about the bullets, they're good for ya!!!!! Nice work buddy!!

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#82331 - Sun Jul 22 2007 12:23 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
bruzer75 Offline
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Registered: Fri Sep 22 2006
Loc: Grants Pass, OR, USA
Very nice work Richard. I like 39's. Of course it was my first.

I have an adapter to turn the computer. I love the sound of the bell and the clicks as it turns. One of my projects is to mount a motor to turn it rather than my drill. There was some discussion about that a few months back.

I am in need of a Chevron Supreme globe for it but the colors of the Derby Star work for now.
Mike

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#82332 - Sun Jul 22 2007 10:56 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
Jack R Offline
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Registered: Fri Feb 27 2004
Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
A rough 39. Jack R

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#82333 - Sun Jul 22 2007 09:37 PM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gatorgaspumps Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
Here is a 39 from Savinsam. Great looking pump.


Thanks Mike and Jack R for your posts, gotta love those 39's. There has to be more out there lets see some pumps. Richard

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#82334 - Sun Jul 22 2007 09:51 PM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
57-Chevy Offline
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Registered: Fri Oct 13 2000
Loc: Locust, NC
You forgot about the Cast Aluminum Base. I have two 4 ad glass models, one with Cast Iron Base, one with Cast Aluminum Base. I also have a 2 ad glass with the stamped steel base.

Mike

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#82335 - Sun Jul 22 2007 11:01 PM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gatorgaspumps Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
Mike thanks for the info, I've never run accross a cast aluminum base for a 39, is it the same mold as the cast steel? There has to be more differences on these 39's, has anyone else run accross something different? Keep the posts comming. Richard

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#82336 - Mon Jul 23 2007 06:21 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
57-Chevy Offline
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Registered: Fri Oct 13 2000
Loc: Locust, NC
I will take a photo of my cast aluminum base this evening and post it. I think it is the same as the cast iron but haven't inspected that close.

Mike

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#82337 - Mon Jul 23 2007 03:30 PM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
57-Chevy Offline
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Registered: Fri Oct 13 2000
Loc: Locust, NC
Cast Aluminum base.


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#82338 - Mon Jul 23 2007 10:50 PM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gaspower Offline
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Registered: Thu Mar 01 2001
Loc: Island County, Washington
It's been a few years since I posted a pic of this pump, it's a tall 39 with three ad glass, all sides except for the hose side. Before I restored it the panels looked to be original to the pump. Globe is an original.



Vern

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#82339 - Mon Jul 23 2007 11:25 PM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gatorgaspumps Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
Mike thanks for the picture, looks like the same mold as the cast steel, and takes the same door mech.. Vern great looking pump and wish I had the globe. Maybe they felt the add glass would get broken on that side. Keep the pictures comming. Richard

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#82340 - Sun Jul 29 2007 09:40 PM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gatorgaspumps Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
Here are a couple more images. Richard




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#82341 - Mon Jul 30 2007 10:56 PM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gatorgaspumps Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
Here are a couple more 39's. Richard





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#82342 - Tue Jul 31 2007 08:41 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
bruzer75 Offline
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Registered: Fri Sep 22 2006
Loc: Grants Pass, OR, USA
When did the 39 switch from the aluminum face plate to the porcelain? I have also noticed some of the porcelain face plates that have the black around the gallon & price numbers.
Mike

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#82343 - Thu Aug 02 2007 06:11 PM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
travis_towle Offline
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Registered: Wed Jan 22 2003
Loc: Topeka, Kansas USA
Mike,

Very good question!!! I would like to know the answer to that too.


Travis E. Towle
Topeka, Kansas

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#82344 - Sun Aug 05 2007 08:52 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
Tokheim Offline
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Registered: Wed Feb 19 2003
Loc: NW PA
Here are three from the Simpler Times Museum, plus the Pennzip I'm still working on trying to bring home.




Tok likes 39's

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#82345 - Sun Aug 05 2007 11:16 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
KD Gas Offline
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Registered: Sun Jan 09 2005
Loc: Bennington, Kansas USA

Shot with DSC-W5 at 2007-08-05
A couple of 39SL's that I have.

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#82346 - Sun Aug 05 2007 12:07 PM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gatorgaspumps Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
Mike and Travis, wish I could answer your question. All I know is that the Aluminum face plates were early and that the sight glass bezel had Sight glass must be full before and after use on them while the porcelin ones were plain. Maybe some one else can come up with the answer.

Great looking pumps Tokheim and KD, keep those pictures coming. Richard

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#82347 - Mon Aug 06 2007 11:45 PM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
djhubba Offline
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Registered: Fri Jan 24 2003
Loc: Seattle WA
Great Job on POTM Richard. thanks everyone for sharing. I used to have 2 tall 39's but traded them. Nice pumps !!!

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#82348 - Thu Aug 16 2007 09:52 PM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
briansbodyshop Offline
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Registered: Sat Apr 07 2007
Loc: paducah ky
I have a 39DP clockface DATED 1-39 . How rare is this pump??





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#82349 - Thu Aug 16 2007 11:35 PM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gatorgaspumps Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
Nice pair of pumps. The clock face pumps show up now and then but not to many around that I know of. Nice thing about it is most of the parts are interchangable from the computer pump from what I know. Would be interested to know what is different besides the clock Meck. between the two. Richard

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#82350 - Fri Aug 17 2007 07:14 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
briansbodyshop Offline
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Registered: Sat Apr 07 2007
Loc: paducah ky
These pumps are identical except for a small hole on the side panel on the clock pump to reset the clock,and the frame where the clock unit mounts, is wider than where the computer pump mounts are.If you sit a computer in the clock pump frame,you can only bolt up 2 places instead of 3..The frame is 1/2 inch wider on 1 side in this area..Thanks.Brian....







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#82351 - Fri Aug 17 2007 10:28 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gatorgaspumps Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
Great pictures and info, always wanted to know the difference. Thanks Richard

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#82352 - Sun Aug 19 2007 08:06 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
Tokheim Offline
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Registered: Wed Feb 19 2003
Loc: NW PA
Here are some more pictures that I forgot I had.



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#82353 - Sun Aug 19 2007 09:28 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gatorgaspumps Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
Great pictures Tokheim, thanks Richard

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#82354 - Sun Aug 19 2007 09:51 AM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
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Registered: Fri Feb 09 2001
Loc: Pueblo Colorado usa
Here is a picture of a Cliff Brice station in Pueblo,Co.
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#82355 - Fri Sep 07 2007 07:29 PM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
aquartlow Offline
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Registered: Thu Aug 10 2006
Loc: Trenton, Ohio
Wanted to tag this thread as I just finished this 39 Tokheim. I could have used Doc on this one. Reflection, light...



Mick



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#82356 - Fri Sep 07 2007 09:25 PM Re: July POTM Tokheim 39 Talls
gatorgaspumps Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 07 2004
Loc: Walla Walla, WA USA
Nice pump Mick, thanks for posting. Richard

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