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Referbish Tags ? #682723
Sat Mar 18 2017 06:34 PM
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I cleaned up and painted a few of these Bennett tags. I had them on a flat smooth bench and sanded them using a hard flat piece of wood, but still ended up getting the new paint below the raised letters. Can any one tell how I can do this without getting in the lower area

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Re: Referbish Tags ? [Re: old dog] #682724
Sat Mar 18 2017 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted By old dog
I cleaned up and painted a few of these Bennett tags. I had them on a flat smooth bench and sanded them using a hard flat piece of wood, but still ended up getting the new paint below the raised letters. Can any one tell how I can do this without getting in the lower area


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Re: Referbish Tags ? [Re: old dog] #682743
Sat Mar 18 2017 09:48 PM
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I would try 000 still wool. Might work. But good question.


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Re: Referbish Tags ? [Re: old dog] #682745
Sat Mar 18 2017 10:14 PM
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Sorry, but a little confused by your question. Are you trying to paint the black lower or the raised silver letters? If your trying to repaint the black, the way i have done it, is apply a lite amount of grease to the raised letters. After painting just wipe off

Re: Referbish Tags ? [Re: old dog] #682762
Sun Mar 19 2017 08:07 AM
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I like your approach but the problem is between the distortion of the metal and the minimal metal stamping relief, I don't know if a way of just knocking off the top paint only.

any approach using the different heights of the part is probably doomed to fail. Fixing this is more "artistic" or manual unfortunately.

This part is reproduced. With these original tags I usually just hit it quickly with my bench grinder buffing wheel, just to clean it a little, and if it still looks bad, I go with the repro.

You could strip all the paint off of these parts you have, hit it with a buffer, and go with an all metal look?

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Re: Referbish Tags ? [Re: old dog] #682793
Sun Mar 19 2017 02:49 PM
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I did replace these with new repop ones. I was seeing if I could make these old ones look new again. And mostly, just for something to do. I had them down to bare shinny metal and sprayed the whole thing black and was trying to sand the higher letters back to bare metal. I did think of putting light grease on the letters but wasn't sure how to NOT get any on the area to be black?

Re: Referbish Tags ? [Re: old dog] #682794
Sun Mar 19 2017 03:22 PM
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this is the one I need re-done
I don't think they reproduce this
so I can't get bailed out that way
appears some where down the line
somebody has scraped on it & scratched
it- don't know if that will buff out .. ... cool

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Re: Referbish Tags ? [Re: old dog] #682796
Sun Mar 19 2017 04:00 PM
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Randy, it appears the tag was originally black, someone painted red all over it including the stamped part that was not colored in. You might need paint remover to get the red out of the stamped numbers, then start all over again. Good luck.

Incidentally your 156 was born in August, 1930.

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Re: Referbish Tags ? [Re: old dog] #682799
Sun Mar 19 2017 04:15 PM
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There's two or three ways of doing what your after, both are harder than probably worth doing. One is using spray mask (stuff used by auto body guys), sprays on s leaves a thin film everywhere. Then you take an exact knife out, and cut out the background. Won't work great but ok.

Easier way but expensive, is to scan the tag and have your local sign shop make a vinyl relief stencil to place on your tag. Paint and then remove stencil. Probably put you back $100 or so.

I guess you could start over and note the areas that are sanding badly, and hit those areas with an exacto knife instead.

Just trying to help, as I have struggled with similiar problems before....

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Re: Referbish Tags ? [Re: Jack Sim] #682814
Sun Mar 19 2017 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Jack Sim
Randy, Incidentally your 156 was born in August, 1930. Jack Sim


Jack, patent # on tag indicates the oil rack is early
50's picture of where tag belongs .. ... cool

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Re: Referbish Tags ? [Re: old dog] #682858
Mon Mar 20 2017 07:26 AM
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I've done some of these and the best way I've found is this;
Prepare the tag for painting
Spray it once or twice with flat black (rattle can)
Wet sand with 600 grit using your finger as a backing
When you are done sanding decide if that is sufficient- if not spray it again one coat and re sand
When you are done spray with gloss clear (rattle can)

This only works with raised letter tags. Tokheim 39 tags can't be done.

I think I have pictures of this somewhere. If I find them I'll post them.

Obviously, if the tag has dents or deep scratches you will get some imperfections.

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Re: Referbish Tags ? [Re: old dog] #682883
Mon Mar 20 2017 01:19 PM
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Sorry, I didn't read the Model Number correctly, I thought it was a 150.

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We rebuild ECO air meters and sell parts.

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