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besgar
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From: pueblo co. usa
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posted 11-07-2005 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for besgar   Click Here to Email besgar     Edit/Delete Message
I am restorimg a short 39 for my dentist, and one door is really rough. My problem is the doors are 1 inch taller than a normal 39. This is the third diffrent size short I have seen. This one is an aluminum base, it looks as if it may be a cut down tall. It was cut down on the top, on the sides. They are overlapped and leaded. This looks to be done a long time ago. the pump is a 46 model. Do you think that it may have been cut down durring a rebuild? Seems like alot of work to shorten it the way it was shortend, I would have cut the bottom, less bodywork. All the lighting conduit looks like it was made for it, but the light switch is way done towards the bottom. It probally is unlikely to find another door to match I would think. The glass is 12x17, and it is only beaded on 3 sides of the glass unlike the other two types of doors I have seen. If anyone has a door like this that they want to sell it is 53.250 inches tall. Let me know.
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Brandon

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tall49guy
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From: Reseda CA USA
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posted 11-07-2005 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tall49guy   Click Here to Email tall49guy     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, Brandon. Weber's in San Antonio sells repro doors for short 39s I believe. Maybe you could use one of theirs. I'm sure they will give you the overall height. If not, cut down a crappy Tall 39 door. Just a thought. Dave Folck

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Jack Sim
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From: St. Louis, MO, USA
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posted 11-07-2005 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jack Sim   Click Here to Email Jack Sim     Edit/Delete Message
The tall 39s were mostly made from 39-47, with a few being even made till 1958. The short version was introduced in 1947. If your ID states 1946 it probably was a tall one cut down.
One more thing to consider. The war ended near the end of 1945, companies like Tokheim then spent months taking out the machines they were using to make war material and setting up the old equipment left over from 1941. 1946 was mostly a changeover year where designers were working on new products, and the equipment to make them was being produced. In the meantime the company was trying to make some money, who knows what they produced to being in some money. Maybe they experimented on shortening a tall 39 into a short 39.
Jack Sim
Author, Gas Pump Identification book and soon to be published "Air Meter Identification" book.

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Thunder II
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From: Elbert County Colorado
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posted 01-24-2006 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thunder II   Click Here to Email Thunder II     Edit/Delete Message
I went to Eaton Metals in Denver today. I asked about their logo on the faceplates of my 36b. Among the answers that I got about that, they had told me that during the war, the cut down a lot of Tokheim 39s. The pumps were cut down, in an effort to "Modernize" them. A small section was cut out of the frame, and skins, to make the pumps shorter, like the newer pumps. The scrap metal was then recycled for the war efforts. The Gentleman that I spoke with, was a young child at the time, though he does remember his Dad doing this. Because he was just a child, he did not remember any of the specifics, nor does he have any photos or documentation as to how it was done. I wonder if the pump that you are working on, is one of those conversions... HTH

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dean balduff
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From: new lenox,il.
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posted 01-25-2006 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dean balduff   Click Here to Email dean balduff     Edit/Delete Message
I own a 39 that was "cut down".It stands about 4" taller than the other three short 39's We have.You might consider attaching a sheet metal "skirt" to the bottom with rivets and smooth it out with fiberglass and/or bondo. Dean

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