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tbuckles Active Member Posts: 205 |
posted 01-14-2006 08:48 AM
  
This might seem a little backwards but I want to buy something that burns diesel fuel instead of something that pumps it. As some of you know that has met me at the midwestern gas shows my current pump hauler needs retired. My 'ol blue Dodge Cummins diesel pickup is pushing half a million miles. It's been faithful for hauling loads of pumps and clearing out bulk plants from all over the Eastern half the USA. What I want is a little picky but I will find it. A clean one owner 2003 or 2004 Dodge 2500 Quadcab, long bed, Cummins Diesel, manual transmission prefer a 5spd instead of the 6 spd because I really don't want the Highoutput motor, 4x4, somewhere around 50,000 miles, priced low to mid 20's. If anybody is a truck dealer out there or has one that wants to sell I am a buyer. I would certainly like to deal with a fellow oldgasser if possible. Heck I would even throw some pumps in for a finders fee for the right truck. IP: Logged |
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sslick68 Active Member Posts: 615 |
posted 01-14-2006 08:38 PM
Hey Tom,The dodges are nice but if you didnt know everyone is having trouble with the turbo pumps or something?They cost 1800 to replace,he has already had 3 and its a 2004.They warrenty it but I would hate to know I was a long away from home and this happened.I know many others that have had the same problem with the diesels(dodge).I like chrystler and I know you do but thought you might want to look into this.Harrys phone is 573 775 2455 you can ask him about it.Steve ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Blastmaster Active Member Posts: 164 |
posted 01-14-2006 09:53 PM
Steve is right, thyere having injector pump failures. My buddies 04 is on the third, second was warranty, the third was put on it Montana 2 months ago after a $400 tow and 3 days waiting for part. Dealer wouldnt do warranty so he paid for it. This was on elk hunting trip 1000 miles form Cali. IP: Logged |
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gaspumpman Active Member Posts: 693 |
posted 01-14-2006 11:42 PM
We have been seeing quite a few of the Cummins and Power stroke with tranny problems. Seems like the manual trannys are no problem but the automatics in both rigs are coming apart. IP: Logged |
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tbuckles Active Member Posts: 205 |
posted 01-15-2006 06:34 PM
Thanks for the info so far. I know the automatics won't last long that's why I don't want one. As far as the injection pump failures I have not been aware of anything out of the ordinary. The law of averages says that if it's mechanical it can go wrong. The owners I have talked to have not reported any problems. Something I will most certainly check into farther. The search continues. Tom. IP: Logged |
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sslick68 Active Member Posts: 615 |
posted 01-15-2006 09:50 PM
True on the auto trannys too!Another guy I know has went through 3 also.The injector pumps is what it was.Didnt really care as I cant afford 45,000 for a truck that breaks down anytime,anywhere.Build an older dodge truck to match them awsome cars!Buy a school bus?????? Now thats an idea! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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TY RACER Active Member Posts: 24 |
posted 01-19-2006 03:35 PM
Part of the problem with many of these failures is also abuse of chipping on automatics. Many farmers and contractors in our area run these non standard chips at the highest settings drawing in more fuel and air mixture, thus much more torque and horsepower and the resultant trans failure is inevitable. Also Chevrolet yesterday let it slip out of their engineering dept that there may be a major recall on the Duramax (made by Isuzu) due to injector problems. What many of these chip users do not realize is the dealerships now have a program that can dwelve into the air/fuel intake history and basically void the warranty on them if they are so inclined. This is usually left up to the individual dealer diesel mech. Dodges trans are built by Allison and Fords engines and trans are built by Navistar (old International Harvestor) both stellar companies with a long history. Injector problems are one thing, losing transmissions that are stout built like an Allison is something else. If you treat them right (and they are built right) should last for a long time. I have a 2006 F250 Crew Cab that I use to trailer my antique/muscle cars, pumps ect and have not had a problem from day one. I have mine chipped but run at a low setting thus boosting fuel mileage by as much as 5 mi per gal. Treat them right, do the maintenance and all of them are good if built right. Just my 2 cents worth. IP: Logged |
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tbuckles Active Member Posts: 205 |
posted 01-19-2006 08:22 PM
Good advice on the chips. I know I would not need anymore power but the fuel economy boost would be worth it. If the deal works out I found exactly what I am looking for, color and all. Right now it's out West. I feel a road trip in my future. IP: Logged |
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Blastmaster Active Member Posts: 164 |
posted 01-19-2006 09:49 PM
Tom: How far west are you looking? Ca by chance? Bringing anything out with you? IP: Logged |
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sslick68 Active Member Posts: 615 |
posted 01-20-2006 12:36 AM
I thought that the chevy has the allison transmission? When I worked for chevy,seemed they were starting to have problems with the heads????? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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TY RACER Active Member Posts: 24 |
posted 01-20-2006 09:02 AM
You are right, senior moment yesterday at 55 yrs. old. Allisons are indeed used in Chevrolets. May have to take my daily driver home today and get the Powerstroke 4 wheel drive diesel as they are calling for 8 in of snow and wind to boot here in Dekalb 60 mi west of Chicago. Guess I will stay in and watch the Barrett Jackson auction this weekend and forget going out looking for goodies. Have a good one Steve, Rob IP: Logged |
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Thunder II Active Member Posts: 1675 |
posted 01-20-2006 10:13 AM
I've brought this up before. The GM product, is a fine product, but they have always come up short when trying to "deiselize" The new Duramax is their best effort by far, but still comes very short of where they need to be. Aluminum cylinder heads and cast iron blocks DO NOT MIX... Maybe for racing, but definitly not for normal road use. The aluminum expands & contracts at different rates & amounts than the cast iron. This causes a scrubbing action to the cylinder heads, the end result is a head gasket failure. Sadly their Allison trans falls a little short of the heavy duty trans that is made by the parent GM corporation. Its like saying that the Cummins engine in the Dodge is the same as whats in the "Big Rigs" As far as the Dodge, the Cummins engine is a GREAT engine, for that application. Sadly the rest of the truck, just doesn't seem to hold up. For my money, the Ford Super Duty is the best investment. This is more than a personal opinion. I make my living with my trucks. There are a lot of different factors that go into a truck purchase that I need to take into consideration, and that lead me to this conclusion. Navistar has built a very good product here. A lot of the past problems have been addressed. Double the pump output, and double the oil capacity in the trans, as well as an additional low gear. Now I know that this reply will bring up additional, passionate, responses. Thats fine, most of us are comfortable with what Mom & Dad always drove. But in your truck purchase, figure what is important to you, price, economy, life cycle cost, then do your research in those areas. Dont be influenced by creative advertising. Go to actual facts & figures. A truck is a large investment. Its too easy to spend a lot of money on a pretty face... IP: Logged |
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TY RACER Active Member Posts: 24 |
posted 01-20-2006 04:24 PM
Amen to that. Thunder, remember the commercial showing the Chevy with 4 wheel steering and how it was going to be such a hit and easy to park? Lots of frilly commercials that had no substance in real life. The mechanic friends of mine said after the warranty LOOK OUT. It was one of the most expensive failures GM had. I originaly grew up on a large farming operation (except for the Texaco station and bulk service my dad owned thus the oil and gas virus)with lots of different engines. My dad and I would ask many questions before we shelled out big dollars for large equipment. Your analysis was my take when I ordered my 2006 250 Super Duty with a diesel. I looked and drove all of them. Plus around a lot of the race tracks, cars shows, swap meets all yr long last yr, I polled different owners as to what they liked and disliked. By far the Ford Super Duty was the chosen one. Second seemed to be Cummings for pulling trailers but Dodge Rams in this area have no resale value. Cummins and Ford have been in the truck and diesel game for yrs and engine wise seem to have it down. Chevrolet, well you hit it on the head. I can't believe they still build their engines that way. Look what happens to the little cars with the aluminum heads and cast block. I put a head gasket on my 21 yr old daughter's 99 Pontiac Sunfire at 75,000 miles. There is absolutely no reason for that when some of my employees are driving Toyotas and Hondas with 150,000 + miles and never have even had the head off. Your right Thunder each to his own but I agree totally, look and ask a lot of questions of the people that USE them not SELL them. Each to their own, not trying to start a brand war just stating what I have observed, Take care ROB IP: Logged |
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JEFFSAUTOMOBILIA Active Member Posts: 531 |
posted 01-20-2006 06:39 PM
Just my 2 cents. I have been working for a Ford dealership for the last 20 years. The powerstroke is a very good engine but be careful of the late 2003 and early 2004 model year 6.0l. The results of these early powerstrokes was the reason Ford reports HUGE losses in the 3rd quarter of 2005. The warranty costs for these engines was a direct result of their losses. They had major trouble with injectors, cylinder heads, and the adjustable veins in the turbo. Initially, Ford blamed everyone but themselves stating that it was lack of maintenence on the customers behalf. Recently Ford is starting to accept ownership of these problems and are starting to buy some of them back. It seems they have worked out their issues and the late 2004 thru current seem to be much more reliable. IP: Logged |
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Seth Robbins Active Member Posts: 1470 |
posted 01-20-2006 07:58 PM
Tom...with all those used parts you've been selling, maybe you should consider one of these.....you can haul 44 visibles standing up in that rig, plus never pay for a hotel room again! [This message has been edited by Seth Robbins (edited 01-20-2006).] IP: Logged |
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