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oldnfuelish Active Member Posts: 2308 |
posted 01-15-2006 01:17 PM
  
i was just wondering if anyone had a screw on ring for a standard crown that they might want to sell,the base is 6" on the crown.also do i need to use a 7" globe holder and adapter for this crown,or will it fit on a 6" holder? thanks mick IP: Logged |
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Oldgas Moderator Posts: 3121 |
posted 01-15-2006 01:36 PM
http://www.time-pass.com/shop/specglobes.html IP: Logged |
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thermactor Active Member Posts: 1393 |
posted 01-15-2006 01:40 PM
Wait a minute... Now they're making a repro with a screw-on base? I hope there's an easy way to tell them from original. Anyone know? Wes IP: Logged |
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oldnfuelish Active Member Posts: 2308 |
posted 01-15-2006 02:55 PM
not sure i understand the setup on this thing.the crown has a 6" base that is threaded.it fits right into a 6" globeholder.i want to put it on a 6" holder,do i even need this metal ring?i thought it was actually there so you did not screw up to the glass,ie:metal between the glass and screws?just want to make sure i do it correct.don't want another busted crown IP: Logged |
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thermactor Active Member Posts: 1393 |
posted 01-15-2006 02:59 PM
Speaking of, what happened with that broken one? Did you save the ring? Did you get your money? The ring screws onto the globe base, and it flares out at the bottom. Crown globes such as yours are designed to go in a 7-inch globe holder. If you want to put yours in a 6" holder, you may have to get yet another adapter to go down to 6", or get a 7" globe holder for your pump. Repro crowns like the one currently (temporarily) pictured (not the one described) on time passages had a normal 6" flange base that you could use in a 6" globe holder. Wes IP: Logged |
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oldnfuelish Active Member Posts: 2308 |
posted 01-15-2006 03:15 PM
wes i had to send the ring back withe the rest of it,and yes the guy was real good about it and gave me a full refund.i under stand how it works now thanks IP: Logged |
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Lastgas15 Active Member Posts: 4572 |
posted 01-15-2006 09:12 PM
Original Standard crowns have a 7" base. The non-lettered versions use a screw on base. Without the screw on base the globe measures about 6". If you use a base you'll need a 7" globe holder. I think someone makes an adapter. I've seen guys put Crowns in a 6" holder by leaving the screw base off or turning it upside down. IP: Logged |
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sslick68 Active Member Posts: 615 |
posted 01-15-2006 09:30 PM
I didnt know they were making the screw base repros either,mine are original unless the guy boght around 20 fakes!Is there any repro markings,we need to find this out to alert potential crown buyers.Bob is right about the crowns,I have mounted without the ring just be careful not to screw to tight,just enough to snug fit the 3 screws is enough. IP: Logged |
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SuperAmerica Man Active Member Posts: 295 |
posted 01-16-2006 08:25 AM
No date markings that I know of unless they were recently added to the mold. Regardless of the base on the repro crowns, if you have ever owned an original you would be able to tell the differences between them. They are much "whiter" than originals and the mold parting lines are not as good, also the details are not as strong. Not to mention staining and condition of base area are telltail signs of crowns that were used outside...and lets not forget all the clues about repaints... This has been covered allot over the years and I beleive in PCM, and also the Globe book. Steve, You have never owned a Repro...that I know of. If anyone ever has questions and is unsure prior to a purchase I would also suggest posting a pic here for advice. Better to know ahead of time what you may own. Kim ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Lastgas15 Active Member Posts: 4572 |
posted 01-16-2006 12:04 PM
I've had several original crowns. Some of the originals were very white also. Remember they were used with the screw on bases from 1932 until 61 so if you look hard enough you'll find subtle differences in the originals. IP: Logged |
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thermactor Active Member Posts: 1393 |
posted 01-16-2006 12:17 PM
Let's say you find one en ebay. Getting a seller to quantify the "whiteness" or the level of detail would be difficult, if not impossible. The presence of rust on the threads might not be the best indicator either, as I run across NOS ones sometimes. I'm not going to pre-judge, as I don't have all the info, but it's looking like the person(s) reproducing these might be committing a shameful act by not marking them as repros. I've emailed Mr. Anderson, asking what the differences are, and how many will be made (limited production). I'll let you guys know what I find out. I personally don't think it would have been out of line to mill the word REPO into the mold right next to the neck of the globe. Wes IP: Logged |
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Dick Bennett Active Member Posts: 6015 |
posted 01-16-2006 08:11 PM
All the repo crowns I've seen have a 6" flange base, not the threaded base like originals. The early rasied letter crowns have a 7" flange base. db IP: Logged |
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