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SWABBY Active Member Posts: 303 |
posted 01-19-2006 10:30 AM
  
FYI.....On 6th of Jan I posted a Fry 117 for sale in the 'FOR SALE OR TRADE' sec. Price was 3500. Had 12 responses, with a few different opinions. Well last night I sold the pump for full price and guy was glad to get it..POINT: I'm not honking my own horn at all, ..I'm simply saying if you have a very desireable, quite rare pump in VG/OS cond, ask a premium price for it and it will probably sell... IP: Logged |
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scootdog Active Member Posts: 796 |
posted 01-19-2006 10:55 AM
Good for you Warren. I am glad you got what you wanted for it and that new owner got a very good pump for a price he thought was fair. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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travis_towle Active Member Posts: 1136 |
posted 01-19-2006 08:44 PM
Boy those prices are getting crazy - I need to start popping out exact reproductions of the fry maywests now... That is good to hear they seem to be going for that much - how did you advertise that? I have 3 here I need to sell TODAY for that kinda range...
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RARIN TO GO Active Member Posts: 465 |
posted 01-19-2006 08:52 PM
I have to admit I thought the price was real high but hey...good for you on selling it. I don't know whether to buy pumps or globes or signs anymore. They all amaze me the prices they can bring. Look for good quality original items and look for what makes you happy and I think you can't lose. chris IP: Logged |
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sslick68 Active Member Posts: 615 |
posted 01-20-2006 12:40 AM
I was just wandering what happened to the fry that churchland was trying to sell on here,restored for 3500??????How did he not sell his pump?????Someone must know the right people.Want to broker my pumps for me????? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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travis_towle Active Member Posts: 1136 |
posted 01-21-2006 01:41 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Fry-Mae-West-Gas-Pump-all-original-no-restoration_W0QQitemZ7211864030QQcategoryZ40QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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sslick68 Active Member Posts: 615 |
posted 01-21-2006 09:10 PM
Got to agree with Travis on this one.I have sold 2 frys last year for 1000 or around that.I think that 1500 for the unrestored ones is fair!I like suckers also but is this making the market on the frys go up to a point that someone is not going to be happy when they find out theyve been had! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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BLange Active Member Posts: 618 |
posted 01-21-2006 09:38 PM
I know where there are 4 mae west Fry's in 3 different locations 3 tens & 1 five gallon, with in an hour from me. All in good shape(unrestored) with good glass, and all for around the $2,500 dollar mark. Yea I want one, but the price is going to have to come down some. Like about $800 to $1000 dollars. People can buy and sell for whatever they want, I could care less. I'm just going to wait for a better deal then $2500. Looking for the good deal is half the fun anyway. Brian IP: Logged |
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besgar Active Member Posts: 464 |
posted 01-21-2006 09:43 PM
I just bought a complete deep blue cylinder,117 was happy to pay $2000. I could sell rite now for $2700 but find another complete one. I have another that I bought when I first started thought I was getting a good deal at $1000. now that I have it complete with orrignal parts I have $2000 in it. A good glass will cost you $600 at least for a blue cylinder. I thought I got a good deal I paid $500 its blue, etched, and NOS with rings. $1500 would be really good price to pay for a complete one. Ebay is not a real market for pumps in my oppinion, shipping kills even a good deal most times if they are willing to crate and ship. I look at every pump on ebay none are in my area maybee thats why they will bring more out here. I have driven clear to west virgina for a pump 1700 miles one way, it was an 850. I wouldnt do it again if it was free. I will give $1500 all day for complete 117 as long as you deliver. Just how I see it, I think you guys are lucky to keep buyin them at those prices or selling there and still making a bit thats great. Unfortunaly thats not how it works here. You see the end result price but if you only make $500 on it thats not ripping someone off. All I know is they cost me $2000 I would ask $2500 if I were selling. One thing to rember for every one I see out here you guys see three. Bottom line is supply and demand, here there is just more demand then supply. Brandon IP: Logged |
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travis_towle Active Member Posts: 1136 |
posted 01-21-2006 10:06 PM
I ALWAYS sell my glass - I like plastic. No need in having the glass when the plastic looks the same - execpt for the blue tent - have not found blue tent plastic yet. I like em RUFF - hard restoration, very rusty. tops missing etc... Cheaper and easy to restore with a good hard sandblast. I can see a complete pump that is not rusty and has all the parts going for 1500.00 - 1750.00 , but that is not my kinda pump - I like visy's with doors missing, no hose, no nozzle, no glass or broken glass, missing gallon indicators, rust threw... Yea, that is my kinda pump - easy buy at 500.00 for a fry like that. If you shop around for the parts you will only have about 1200.00 in the complete restoration with the plastic - that is home made plastic cyl, paint and blasting, with the signs, doors and globes...
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Seth Robbins Active Member Posts: 1470 |
posted 01-21-2006 10:16 PM
I wish someone would bring me some Mae Wests for $1000-$1200. When I do get them for that price, I've got to hang $500 worth of parts on them and then put in a cylinder. I've been selling restored Mae Wests for 3 years for between $5000-$6000 (probably in the neighborhood of 20 of them) I've not sold an unrestored (with good glass) for under $2500 EVER! I will gladly take them off anybody's hands complete minus cylinder for $1200 as many as you can come up with. Bearing in mind homemade access panels & broken castings does not equal complete. I have guys bring me Mae Wests that are missing everything from the cylinder base up with all access panels missing and no pump handle and tell me "you make all the parts to make it complete" as if that somehow makes it OK. That's when we start talking $500. IP: Logged |
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travis_towle Active Member Posts: 1136 |
posted 01-21-2006 10:43 PM
again with the good glass - I never see them with good glass - always broken...
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travis_towle Active Member Posts: 1136 |
posted 01-21-2006 10:47 PM
Hey Seth - what will you give me for them with broken glass and all doors, no nozzle, no globe, broken flower pots and condut, no hose. Both 5 gallon and 10 gallon fry wests. In CA$S delivered to your shop?
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travis_towle Active Member Posts: 1136 |
posted 01-21-2006 11:24 PM
Remember - I am sore on the Fry Mae Wests because my very own father STOLE 2 of them from me and the corrupt courts will not let me have them back... BUT - with on guy saying he sold his for $3,500.00 and Seth saying he sells them for $5000-$6000 = then WHY did no one BUY up the one on ebay unrestored for anything? - or even bid on it for that matter.... FACT - no one thought it was worth $1,400.00 in that shape. IF they did they would have bid on it - FACT!!. See, ebay is GREAT as it tells you what things are really worth. This week I had a lady come to my house wanting me to sell a dimond ring on ebay for her - when I asked what she wanted for it she said $3,500.00 min. I told her it would never sell for that on ebay - even though it was apparised at 5 grand. I refused to list it. She had another guy list it, and it only got up to around 400 bucks. The Pawn Shops offered 175.00 for it. So the general public says the ring is only worth 400 bucks. Like with the pump in the link - the general public said it is NOT worth $1,400.00..... Seth has a shop - and people will buy for high $ from a shop. Like the dimond ring, the lady bought it from a shop for $5,900.00 - but when she wanted to sell it back they would only give her around 200 bucks for it. That is how Biz works. Sometimes I get to thinking this hobby is crazy with the prices things get. I am kinda looking forward to seeing the next 10-20 years as prices bottom out like they did on the Model A's and Model T's like the ones I collect. Today you can build a Model T from new parts that are made so well you can not tell them apart from the old parts. You can ebay the old parts for more then you pay for the EXACT looking NEW part. Then you have a new car... YEA!!!! I did that on ebay with one of my shut-off valves on a Fry I have here now. I sold the old valve for about 200-300 bucks, and bought a NEW EXACT copy for 49.99 at a plumbing supply house. SAME DARN THING... Just not all banged up like the original... I could do that with a concrete mixer and re-sell and no one would ever know... It is the same for these pumps - I colud get my Fry 73 mid sections re-casts this year, and could buy all the parts to put 4 Fry 73s together from people like Seth. I could let them stand outside uncovered so they will rust over. Then I will be able to sell them to the unsupecting public... Saying "HEY LOOK AT THESE OLD PUMPS!!!" My cost would be about $750.00 each without glass. Seems if this was a WEST fry I would make a KILLING!!!!!! BUT, we had this discussion already... Just my thoughts as I spend my night typing up a letter to the Judge asking for at least one of my pumps back.... Ho hum... Life goes on they say.
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Seth Robbins Active Member Posts: 1470 |
posted 01-22-2006 08:05 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Fry-Mae-West-Gas-Pump-all-origin al-no-restoration_W0QQitemZ7211864030QQcategoryZ40QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Travis...this is the link to the mae west you keep referring to. It is missing over $100 worth of access doors, has a broken cylinder ($285 for acrylic) AND you have to go to North Dakota to pick it up. If this guy brought this to my front door, I would gladly buy it for about $1250. If I were to buy that pump for $1499 and then drive to North Dakota to pick it up, I would have a minimum of $2499 in it when I got back home. If this guy shipped it, it would be $400-$500. That is why nobody buys a pump like that on ebay. Here's some random thoughts for you hopefully to calm you down: 1. Don't compare the jewelry business to ANY other situation in the world. The mark-up and imitations are higher in that business than any other. REAL biz do not offer pennies on the dollar for returned merchandise, only the jewelry biz. 2. I bought 3 visibles last week off the street all with perfect cylinders...they ARE out there. 3. As for prices bottoming out...did you catch any of Barrett-Jackson this weekend? I've worked full-time in the Petro Collectibles business for 8 years. Not casually, DAILY. Our collectibles follow the cars, be it muscle cars and/or customs/rods. Visibles, like Model 'A's should lose some steam eventually BUT...we restored 44 customers pumps in 2005, 32 were visibles. 4. I would like you to send me one of these EXACT brass gate-valves you've found for $50, you can be my vendor on these cause I've never seen any CLOSE to ornate enough to match the originals. 5. A Mae West and a Fry 73 are about as relative as a '69 Camaro Z-28 and an '81 Camaro Berlinetta. 6. I will give you $1000 for any stamped steel Mae West you bring me with all doors & castings intact, missing glass, globe cup, & conduit. Providing it isn't a rust bucket. It would take about $500 worth of parts to complete it. I'll go $1200 for the cast iron ones. [This message has been edited by Seth Robbins (edited 01-22-2006).] IP: Logged |
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