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Alex
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posted 02-18-2006 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alex   Click Here to Email Alex     Edit/Delete Message
Went to a farm today and am buying a couple of Wayne 80s. As we were wallking back to the house, I noticed an old pump by the fuel barn. Upon closer inspection it is a Bowser 318. It has a globe holder on it. But, when I went to look in Jack Sims' book, the only 318s ar clockfaces. It has the same shape, etc, tag says 318, Varley Patents. The stock number is 32-1620. It looks all original. Did Bowser make an industrial version of it? If so, what might it be worth? It does not have the visi-guage, And to be honest, I didn't see where one would go. Thanks for any help

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Jack Sim
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posted 02-18-2006 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jack Sim   Click Here to Email Jack Sim     Edit/Delete Message
I don't quite understand your question. Are you saying it doesn't have any meters?
Varley was the manufacturer of the meters used in the 318.
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Alex
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posted 02-18-2006 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alex   Click Here to Email Alex     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Jack. Sorry about the lack of info. You are correct, it does not have any meter or a hole of any kind for a meter. It is a square pump. Looks like the original sheet metal. It does have a globe holder. The tag says Bowser 318. I didn't have my camera with me. Any thoughts???

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Jack Sim
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posted 02-19-2006 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jack Sim   Click Here to Email Jack Sim     Edit/Delete Message
Never heard of this one, my guess is what you already assumed, it is some kind of commercial pump where they didn't need to track the amount of gasoline being dispensed.
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Alex
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posted 02-19-2006 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alex   Click Here to Email Alex     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Jack. Are they worth pursuing, or is there much value in a commercial style pump?

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Jack Sim
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posted 02-20-2006 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jack Sim   Click Here to Email Jack Sim     Edit/Delete Message
Twenty years ago when I got into this hobby, you couldn't hardly giveaway a commercial pump. Now it seems, I get a number of questions concerning them, maybe it is just that this is all there is left out there (but I doubt this).
Back when I was in the car hobby, there was always someone who liked and restored a Nash from the 50s, I don't know why, it was probably the first car they found.
This could possibly be true of commercial pumps now. All speculation.
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gatorgaspumps
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posted 02-20-2006 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gatorgaspumps   Click Here to Email gatorgaspumps     Edit/Delete Message
Alex if it is a good price I would get it. If you don't want to keep it let me know, I may be interested. Richard

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Alex
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posted 02-21-2006 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alex   Click Here to Email Alex     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks everyone. Richard. Will keep you in mind if it comes to that. They are still usinn it and would need to replace it with a working pump.

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Dick Bennett
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posted 02-21-2006 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dick Bennett   Click Here to Email Dick Bennett     Edit/Delete Message
Almost all pumps are worth pursuing. I might not be around, but the day will come when there are no 30's, 40' & 50's pumps to be found.

Althrough the upper sheetmetal LOOKS original, it might have been replaced when/if the meter quit. IF, it is indeed a commerical 318, there should be a tag with a Fig. # [BOWSER did not use Model #'s on early pumps].
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Alex
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posted 02-23-2006 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alex   Click Here to Email Alex     Edit/Delete Message
I will see the pump again on Saturday and take pictures. It has the original tag on it. It has the model number on the tag and a stock number. Will get pictures. Thanks

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posted 03-05-2006 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alex   Click Here to Email Alex     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry for the delay in getting pictures of this. I recehceked the tag and it does say "Figure 318". The sheet metal comes apart at the seams and it is complete, just not put together. Is this pump worth pursuing and how much would you pay? They are still using it. Said it has been there for over 55 years.


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posted 03-05-2006 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sslick68   Click Here to Email sslick68     Edit/Delete Message
Looks to me that the top skins are gone and the rest is there.This would be a easy one to complete.They sell the top skins and almost everything else for the clock,you just have to find one of them.If you didnt want to spend big money on original clocks mechanisms just build a frame that the faces and hands will bolt to,it will look real then.Definately worth money!

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posted 03-05-2006 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dick Bennett   Click Here to Email Dick Bennett     Edit/Delete Message
NOT A COMMERICAL PUMP.
As sslick68 said, the upper sheetmetal & mech. is missing [Hubba had one like it-out bid me on ebay].
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Alex
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posted 03-05-2006 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alex   Click Here to Email Alex     Edit/Delete Message
Hi. The other skin is there, just not attached. The skins have no opening for a clock face. What do you guys think it is worth??

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Alex
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posted 03-05-2006 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alex   Click Here to Email Alex     Edit/Delete Message
OK, I am confused. What is missing? The other sheet metal on the left is there, just laying on the ground. What else is missing? Please be specific as I am not as knowledgable as you guys.

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