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hotcidr Active Member Posts: 380 |
posted 10-11-2005 07:31 PM
  
I just got this sign back from the Van Kannel brothers. All I can say is FANTASTIC. The most beautiful work I've seen. I highly recommend these guys Ray  IP: Logged |
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moparman1977 Active Member Posts: 213 |
posted 10-11-2005 07:38 PM
any before shoots IP: Logged |
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gasoildude Active Member Posts: 2259 |
posted 10-11-2005 10:01 PM
Do you have there number? Looks real good. Did they redo the porcelian or fill & paint it? Eather way looks great  IP: Logged |
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Gary Drye Active Member Posts: 1208 |
posted 10-12-2005 10:22 AM
Here are the Kannel Brother's numbers. Don (843) 716-0323 Martin (843) 756-6185 Ray, really looks great. Like the previous post question, how was it restored? Porcelain? Body filler? IP: Logged |
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dodogas Active Member Posts: 3299 |
posted 10-12-2005 10:32 AM
Does it have clear sprayed on it?? Show us the before pic.. IP: Logged |
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bustermonty Active Member Posts: 252 |
posted 10-12-2005 12:26 PM
Van Kannel sign restoration did the black Texaco No Smoking sign I had on ebay last week with no bids on. They did an outstanding job. I still have the sign and am suprised no one stepped up for this beautiful piece. IP: Logged |
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Sierra Active Member Posts: 55 |
posted 10-12-2005 12:56 PM
Very nice looking job. Looks like porcelain, is that their specialty, or do they also work on tin signs? Any web site for these gentlemen? IP: Logged |
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Dick Bennett Active Member Posts: 6015 |
posted 10-12-2005 08:56 PM
I have NOT had any signs restored, BUT Porcelain has to be FIRED IN AN OVEN to melt the powder. Approx. 1200-1400 deg. db IP: Logged |
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hotcidr Active Member Posts: 380 |
posted 10-12-2005 09:25 PM
Unfortunately I forgot to take before pictures. Sorry. My wife says...trust me it didn't look very good. Many many dents and chips and very dull. Not sure what their process is but I'm sure going to have more done ray IP: Logged |
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midway oil Active Member Posts: 311 |
posted 10-12-2005 10:29 PM
Very nice...they advertise in PCM or CTO! don't they? How long was the turn around for the finished product?? Was the price reasonable in your opinion? Do they re-porcelainize? Is it similar to the re-facing that is done on old fashioned bathtubs? Anybody else out there have any experience in having this done?? Thanks for the pics... IP: Logged |
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gulfiend! Active Member Posts: 677 |
posted 10-13-2005 01:31 PM
...Bustermonty, could be the reason your rare Texaco No Smoking sign didn't move is that people are far more likely to buy unrestored items...that way, they know what the 'real' sign looks like... ...in a weird way, kinda like a guy wanting to see his girlfriend without all of the makeup, before he proposes... ...now, before everyone gets on my case for not being a rah-rah cheerleader, I'm just stating my opinion, and my view of the market...seems like a couple of rare globes that had been extensively restored were snubbed by the High Rollers at a well-publicized auction not too long ago - not because they weren't rare or desirable globes, but because they were extensively restored...I do remember one of the globes was a Jumbo Gas with the elephant... ...while the considerable $$ that goes into a given pump restoration can generally be recouped by the seller if the buyer is satisfied with (1) the gasoline brand/paint scheme and (2) the quality of the job, I just don't see the same trend with restored signs or globes...seems like the prices realized for a restored sign/globe aren't much more than the unrestored sign/globe would have brought...and nowhere near what a clean, unrestored sign/globe would bring... ...I did speak with the Van Kannel brothers (nice guys, by the way) at Columbus in 2004, and took photos of a Clean, Clear, Golden Texaco pump sign they had done, as well as a shot of the 'before' photo they had taped to the back of the sign...I am pretty sure they fill, repaint and clear-coat; definitely a 'non-porcelain' process...I will post the photos tomorrow sometime... ...basically, a lot of collectors just won't touch a heavily-restored sign...but, as the number of high-grade unrestored signs continues to dwindle, perhaps the market for such pieces will improve...only time will tell...but we owe it to the 'newbies' - the future of our beloved hobby - to give them as many facts as possible and let them make as informed an decision as possible... IP: Logged |
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Lastgas15 Active Member Posts: 4572 |
posted 10-13-2005 06:12 PM
While I agree that prices are soft on restored globes, I can't say the same for restored porcelain signs. There were several restored signs in the Gary Runyon auction this spring that did extremely well. IP: Logged |
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BBQ Chicken Active Member Posts: 335 |
posted 10-16-2005 05:36 PM
I'd rather see an original rough sign than a restored one. It's like a repop. Original - there is no substitute !!!!! Just my opinion. IP: Logged |
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BLange Active Member Posts: 618 |
posted 10-16-2005 05:54 PM
I've never had a sign redone, I'm afraid it would look odd next to all my dull unrestored signs. Like every thing else if they are excepted by a number of collectors then the price will be there. I just would hate to see it get to the point where people restore a sign that isn't that bad, just to make it shine. Just an opinion, IP: Logged |
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hotcidr Active Member Posts: 380 |
posted 10-16-2005 06:55 PM
It's interesting to read the various opinions about restoration. My feeling is, if a sign still displays well with "some" gloss and "some" chips then hang it up and enjoy it. If it is a mess like this Conoco was then restore it. Many years ago, when I was just a young kid, oh yeah, and I met Richard Amistadi over the telephone and we made our first deal together he asked me why I was buying signs with damage to them. I told him then that it was because I could afford a damaged sign and could enjoy it until something better, at a good price came along. About a year ago Richard told me he NOW understood why I did what I did at the time. Restoration is a good thing. Ray Seider IP: Logged |
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