Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted

Posted by: cgrocen

Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Sun Feb 06 2011 03:39 PM

Hello everyone,

I am new to this forum. I recently "discovered" old gas stations and related memorabilia. I have come to really like the old Texaco stations and Texaco signs. I thought that I might like to make a small replica Texaco sign to have near my workshop. I thought that perhaps a half size replica would be about right. I was wondering if anyone out there would have an original Texaco sign support post or stand that they could measure for me. I have included a sketch with the dimensions that I would need. Once I have the original dimensions, I could scale them down to the size I need. Each letter corresponds to a dimension that I am looking for. You could reply with a marked up copy of my sketch, or with a dimension for each letter.

Thank you in advance,

Chris Rocen
cgrocen@sasktel.net
Posted by: blacktee

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Sun Feb 06 2011 06:13 PM

Contact upsgaspumps right here !

http://oldgas.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=229722&page=6

Doug
Posted by: always lookin

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Sun Feb 06 2011 10:25 PM

http://www.oldgas.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=35767&Number=230957#Post230957

sorry but I cant climb it to measure
Posted by: Scott Baselt

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Mon Feb 07 2011 12:47 AM

These 1936 installation instructions will give you a couple of the measurement you're seeking. I'm in the slow process (it's been over a year) of building a 1/6 scale model using the 12" repro signs.
You'll have to print these and then tape them together to read it.
I used these instruction to install a full sized sign at my place when I lived in Wisconsin. (you know, where the SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS are from !)
That last part is for Mick.





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Posted by: cgrocen

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Mon Feb 07 2011 04:45 PM

Hi everyone,

Hello "Blacktree", I sent a PM to upsgaspumps. I will be waiting for his reply.

Hello "always lookin", That post is a bit high to measure! Thanks for the link and the pics of the Texaco sign.

Hello "Scott Baselt", thank you for posting the original Texaco drawing of the sign post! I am a draftsman by trade, so seeing this drawing is great! You are right though, most of the dimensions I need are not on this drawing. It looks like the details of the individual pieces would be on other drawings in the set. This drawing is DS-L-2874-A which is the installation drawing (as shown in the drawing title), and the details would most likely be on other drawings numbered 2874-1, 2874-2, 2874-3 etc.

Thanks for everyone's help so far. I am sure someone will be able to take the measurements I am looking for.

Cheers,

Chris
Posted by: bmclemore

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Mon Feb 07 2011 06:32 PM

If you can wait until the weekend I can get you the dimensions as I have a texaco pole on the ground.
Posted by: cgrocen

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Mon Feb 07 2011 09:00 PM

Hello Barry,

Yes, certainly I can wait until the weekend. That would be great! I look forward to hearing from you then.

Best regards,

Chris
Posted by: Loyd Pierce

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Tue Feb 08 2011 07:04 PM

I have a buddy that has one on ground,that his wife won't let him put up. Was sitting around waiting for american pickers to swing by on their way out of Tennesseeeeee, but they never showed. can get what you need,if you don't have yet. Need to see if he is ready to sell away.
Posted by: cgrocen

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Tue Feb 08 2011 09:42 PM

Hi Loyd,

I don't have any dimensions for the Texaco post yet. However, forum member bmclemore said that he will be able to get some dimensions for me on the weekend. But, if you would like to take some measurements too, that would be OK.

Do you think that Mike and Frank would have been able to get that sign post into their van if they would have stopped by? LOL!

Cheers,

Chris
Posted by: Dick Bennett

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Tue Feb 08 2011 09:48 PM

They would have called Mikey's Brother to bring a trailer
Posted by: Loyd Pierce

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Wed Feb 09 2011 12:06 AM

Will see if I can get over there tommorow, I'll have my grand son,and won't go if the roads are bad. You know we freak over half in. of snow or less,down here. Pickers is what it is ,made for tv.They did have nice gas pump last night. The middle swung from side to side for easy fill. Have seen pump before ,but can,t remember the correct terms so I won't pretend to know. Cheers
Posted by: Scott Baselt

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Wed Feb 09 2011 12:46 AM

You're probably thinking of the Wayne 100a with the swing arm.



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Posted by: Loyd Pierce

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Wed Feb 09 2011 12:59 AM

THATS IT. site glass was off center. Thats a beauty you have there. Thanks for sharing it.
Posted by: Larry Nace

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Wed Feb 09 2011 08:16 AM

Hi Chris. I just saw your post regarding the Texaco pole measurements. I have one on the ground. Here are the measurements: Larry

"A" -- Diameter 73 1/4"
B -- 41 3/4"
C -- 15 1/4"
D -- 134 5/8"
E -- 3/4"
F -- 20"
G -- 14"
H -- 143 7/8"
I -- 9 1/4"
J -- 3 1/2"
K -- 8"
L -- 4"
M -- 3 1/2"
N -- 3 1/2"
O -- 14"
Posted by: Loyd Pierce

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Wed Feb 09 2011 01:19 PM

Chris Just got back with measurements. See Larry bet me ,and is pretty much what I have. A is slight different,but I was trying to do by self with soft spool tape. Sould of measured across widest point and done math, now that I think about it. Slight different in L as it tapers to 4 1/2 and M tapers from 4 1/2 to 4. and N is 4. Not that big a deal. This one may not be ORG. as I'm no expert. Didn't welcome you last night, I'm new myself. Think you have found great sight with a lot of guys and gals allways willing to help. CHEERS
Posted by: cgrocen

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Wed Feb 09 2011 04:06 PM

A big "Thank You" goes out to both of you, Larry and Loyd! smile

I will draw out the post with a computer drafting program and use the dimensions that you fellows have posted. I am sure that this information will fit the bill for what I am looking for. I will let you know when I have my drawing done.

Thank you for the welcome, Loyd. Yes, this site does seem to have a warm feel to it. Lots of nice people willing to share, that is one thing that makes you want to come back to this site over and over again.

Best regards,


Chris
Posted by: cgrocen

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Wed Feb 09 2011 07:09 PM

Hello again everyone,

After viewing some photos on the internet of Texaco sign posts, I have a question about the top of the post, specifically about the "wings" that stick out on either side at the top. Are the faces of the wings flush with the front face of the tapered post? Or, since the wings appear to be separate pieces that were welded on to the post, are the faces of the wings "square"? Please see my sketch for what I mean by square.

After I get the post figured out, I will have to ask about the hoop section to find out how the actual sign is mounted in the hoop.

Best regards,

Chris
Posted by: Loyd Pierce

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Wed Feb 09 2011 09:17 PM

CHRIS flush with post on the one I was measureing off of. I no expert. Ask PoleSignkid he has more experince with this. I don't know if it was correct org. our not. You can see welds on ground,where it's put together. Once stood up all 4 sides would look like one piece,and taper down to sign ring width.
Posted by: Larry Nace

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Thu Feb 10 2011 04:55 PM

Hi Chris. The main pole itself actually goes to the ring which is 73 1/4" outside dimension and the inside dimension is 72 1/4" to fit the 72" diameter sign. What you call wings flush with face of post is actually a sub-assembly that consist of two gussets that are 3 1/2" x 9 1/2". The end plate is 3 1/2" x 23 1/2" long. At one end it is bent at 3 1/2" which makes the very end of it 3 1/2" x 3 1/2". It is a separate piece welded on to the side of the main post.
Posted by: cgrocen

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Thu Feb 10 2011 08:52 PM

Hello Larry,

Thank you for the additional information. I believe that if I follow you correctly, the sketch below should reflect what the wings look like.

Additionally, since the outside dimension of the ring is 73 1/4" and the inside dimension is 72 1/4", I would presume that the ring itself is 1/2" thick. (O.D. - I.D)/2 = 1/2". Also, based on photos that I have seen, can I assume that the ring is the same width as the top of the wings or post? That is 3 1/2".

That should be about it for info that I was looking for.

I will post a drawing of the post when I have it drawn up.

Cheers,

Chris
Posted by: Larry Nace

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Thu Feb 10 2011 09:39 PM

Good job, Chris. You have it right. I am looking forward to seeing the final drawing. Glad I was able to help. Larry
Posted by: cgrocen

Re: Texaco Sign Support Post Dimensions Wanted - Tue Feb 15 2011 05:12 PM

Hello everyone,

Here is a sketch that I made up of the Texaco post using information that other forum members have supplied as well as info from the Texaco drawing that appears earlier in this post. Some dimensions are not exactly the same as what was posted, due to rounding of numbers, discrepancies that show up when drawn with a computer drafting program, and information that I scaled from the original Texaco drawing, such as the bottom 3/4" plate. I believe that the sketch is a reasonable representation of the Texaco post. I do know that it is not 100% accurate, as it was never meant to be. I have also shown the concrete pedestal, at least the top 6" of it, as most of it was in the ground, and also the cover for the mounting studs. I believe the cover was actually two pieces, but I have shown it as one piece.

Click on the thumbnail to see a larger version.

Chris





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