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Posted By: Jack Sim Ned your advice - Thu Nov 22 2007 11:20 PM
Have a problem with a couple of things on ebay and need some advice.
Purchased an item on ebay, paid for it imediately, happy with item. Seller left negative feedback on me, no reason, guess he didn't like my money

During this same time he was high bidder on two items I had on ebay. He refuses to pay for the items, but he left me negative feedback for both. No reason given for negative feedback on both things.

What do I do now?

Jack Sim

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Posted By: keithia Re: Ned your advice - Thu Nov 22 2007 11:37 PM
Sounds like somebody with a grudge for some reason. Give them negatives back with a reasonable explanation. Future buyers should be able to see what happened.

Keith
Posted By: gtacode Re: Ned your advice - Thu Nov 22 2007 11:44 PM
You need to file a non paying bidder with ebay first , get them in the process. That way he will get two non paying strikes against him , you can always put negative feedback later.
Posted By: cdncon Re: Ned your advice - Fri Nov 23 2007 12:01 AM
Jack, in certain cases you can have feedback removed. Can also do an number of things regarding non-paying bidders and fees for same etc.
Start here and read then click on the a-z index on the left. You should find answers to most all your concerns there. http://pages.ebay.ca/help/feedback/questions/feedback-removal.html
Posted By: Dick Bennett Re: Ned your advice - Fri Nov 23 2007 12:18 AM
NON-PAYING strikes will hurt more than NEGATIVE feedback.
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Posted By: jkyocom Re: Ned your advice - Fri Nov 23 2007 12:28 AM
Map quest and a baseball bat?........
Posted By: Jack Sim Re: Ned your advice - Fri Nov 23 2007 01:04 AM
I never leave negative feedback, don't believe in it, quit doing it 2-3 years ago, only starts a p........ contest.
Wish I could state in my ebay descriptions "Don't leave me feedback, I don't leave feedback" but I know this would only lead to more problems than it is worth.
I believe I read in the feedback pages that purchasing an item to leave negative feedback is a violation of Ebay policy. Will find out soon, as I will submitting a request for return of fees and removal of the negative feedback.
If anybody is interested, I'll let you know what happens.
Jack Sim
Posted By: Gas & Soda 4 Me Re: Ned your advice - Fri Nov 23 2007 02:35 AM
Watch Jack said I believe whole heartly. Ebay has a major problem with Feedback Policys, I have sold over 3000 plus items on ebay and left feedback as soon as the buyer has paid for the item as it is designed to work, I have been filed non-buyer claims also, I have gotten in the past year do not left feedback first anymore. I believe in ebay but No longer will I be the first to leave positive feedback just to get a negative without a email. In short just a P------- Match.
Posted By: Alex Re: Ned your advice - Fri Nov 23 2007 03:57 AM
Jack: I have been on ebay for over 10 years. You have gotten some goof advice on the credit for fees. Good luck on trying to get them to remove feedback. Hope it works. But, as much as it is a pain, leave appropriate feedback. It may not help you, but may help the next person on whether they want to deal with the person either as a buyer or seller. Even though you are taking one for the team, feedback can be a good tool. I have by passed a couple of sellers auctions based on feedback.
Posted By: Hemibird Re: Ned your advice - Fri Nov 23 2007 05:13 AM
I personally like jkyocom's advice but I'd see what Ebay can do for you first. I hate to see your working on your new book from a jail cell.


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Posted By: cdncon Re: Ned your advice - Fri Nov 23 2007 08:32 AM
Jack, in addition to my earlier post would like to add or remind you that you can also leave a response, rebuttal or follow up on your feedback page, to their negative feedback comments. In most cases it can help to offset there negative blurb if worded properly. read here sir to learn more... http://pages.ebay.ca/help/feedback/responding-to-feedback.html

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Posted By: tomzcollectiblez Re: Ned your advice - Fri Nov 23 2007 12:47 PM
Jack, First of all...Take a deep breath...
I know it's frustrating BUT you can do a few things to remove the 2 retalitory feedbacks he left you!
Read this as you DEFINATELY qualify! http://pages.ebay.com/help/feedback/questions/retaliatory-feedback.html
Follow the steps and BOTH retalitory negatives will be removed!
Then after you've gotten them 2 removed...
Try Mutual Feedback Removal for the first one! Read this... http://pages.ebay.com/help/feedback/questions/mutual-withdrawal.html
If he refuses the mutual removal then try ebay safe harbor...I believe they charge 20 bucks but they are good at reasoning with knuckleheads...haha
~Good Luck!~

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Posted By: Jim_Becker68 Re: Ned your advice - Fri Nov 23 2007 01:52 PM
I believe if you file the non-paying bidder complaint with e-Bay and the "buyer" does not respond e-Bay will remove the two negatives he left for you the seller. I see this all the time on e-Bay where the feedback has been removed and it states: "Buyer did not respond to non-paying bidder".

File the non-paying bidder against the yahoo immediately. The two non-paying bidder strikes, as another oldgas member mentioned, are a heck of a lot more trouble for this person than two negative feedbacks.

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Jim
Posted By: tallgye49 Re: Ned your advice - Fri Nov 23 2007 03:59 PM
You are such a deadbeat, Jack--just kidding! =:> ) A note to eBay about the whole affair and let it go. Whatever happens after that, happens. If you ask, maybe they will remove the less than stellar comment about you. Dave Folck
Posted By: jkyocom Re: Ned your advice - Sat Nov 24 2007 12:46 AM
As long as your positive feedback outweighs the negative I would not worry.
You can't please everyone, no matter how hard you try.
Feedback is mearly an opinion, undocumented at that.
Posted By: 59fairlane Re: Ned your advice - Sat Nov 24 2007 02:31 AM
Becker68 is right. I had a non payer awhile back and he jerked me around, so I ended up filing the non paying bidder with ebay and they erased any feedback he left for me. In fact he must had done it before because they suspended the user from ebay.

Good luck.
Posted By: Jack Sim Re: Ned your advice - Sat Nov 24 2007 04:16 AM
Copied from Ebay's Feedback policy, Ebay says this is a vilotation:
Feedback left by a member who bid on or purchased an item solely to have the opportunity to leave negative feedback for the seller, with no intention of completing the transaction.

This guys bid on two of my items, two days later he leaves negative feedback without even a notice that he does not want the items.

Sent all this to Ebay, they say it does not meet their criteria.

Their system is so screwed up, I once received negative for a book that I sold, I didn't even write the book, he just didn't like it....and you guessed it correctly, Ebay said they couldn't do anything about it.

This guy is really vandictive, I will follow the rules, I am going to continue to report him as a non-bidder, if he doesn't pay, I'll wait until near the end of the 90 days I have to leave feedback, and then I will be forced to leave him three negative feedbacks if Ebay doesn't do anything. Don't like to do this, but when you try to do everything right, and then they say they can't do anything, well......
Really wanted to spend all this time on the new book, but I just couldn't let this slip by.
Jack Sim
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