Evinrude outboard signs

Posted by: Wes Hague

Evinrude outboard signs - Sat Oct 18 2014 10:59 AM

1st. sign is 26 x 15 single sided tin $800
2nd. sign is 23-1/2 x 12 single sided tin $1050
3rd. sign is 24x18 single sided tin $200
4th. sign is 24 x 18 single sided tin $600
Posted by: Wes Hague

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sat Oct 18 2014 12:06 PM

5th. sign is 25-1/2 x 14-1/2 single sided tin and is $500
6th. sign is 26x9 and internally lite with fluorescent tubes, plastic face is excellent , works perfect and is $600
7th. sign is heavy card in a professionally framed wooden frame and it is $1100
All signs are Original and untouched or repaired..
Posted by: THERMOMAN

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sat Oct 18 2014 04:34 PM

Sign 5 is a fake
Posted by: 57tbirdkid

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sat Oct 18 2014 04:35 PM

I agree
Posted by: Wes Hague

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sat Oct 18 2014 04:41 PM

really ? how do you know ?,, I have removed it from my list until I can tell for sure it is NOT original, if it is I got screwed
Posted by: 2 Gallon Luke

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sat Oct 18 2014 07:09 PM

Id like to know as well. It looked real to me, and am surprised to hear otherwise, so Id like to know what to look for if I ever got a similar sign offered to me.
Posted by: Markymark63

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sat Oct 18 2014 10:31 PM

I am puzzled and was going to perhaps buy it. I have looked long and hard, compared to #4. The one thing I see is the top of the guys hat On sign #5 on the left in the boat is not as detailed as the one in #4. Please elaborate, and thank you.
Posted by: nam5072

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sat Oct 18 2014 10:39 PM

There was a thread about fake Evinrude signs on here a while back. I cannot tell the difference with yours.
Posted by: Wes Hague

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sun Oct 19 2014 07:31 AM

I am asking the two guys that said it was a fake to please reply and explain,, it's one thing to say it's a fake but I need them to tell me how they know ? My sale depends on it.
Posted by: Wes Hague

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sun Oct 19 2014 07:42 AM

That isn't the number 5 were talking about now, I have removed it and re numbered the items.. the rest of the signs on here are original,,
Posted by: hancock-oil

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sun Oct 19 2014 07:44 AM

How about pictures of the back of the signs that might also Help! Jim
Posted by: Wes Hague

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sun Oct 19 2014 08:20 AM

this is 57tbirdkid's reply to me,
"Font is computer generated, looks like it was artificially rusted ...."
You be the judge,, I cleaned the rust off now.. pictures show front and back.. grommet's and chip's
Size is 13x9"
I personally have never seen this sign before anywhere,, can't imagine why anyone would reproduce an uncommon sign.. it's not even all that exciting... I just liked it..
Posted by: Wes Hague

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sun Oct 19 2014 08:21 AM

two more pictures
Posted by: 2 Gallon Luke

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sun Oct 19 2014 09:14 AM

Ohh.. Ok, I see now.
Posted by: Wes Hague

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sun Oct 19 2014 09:18 AM

you guys make me laugh,,, experts on graphic's,, WOW...
Posted by: 57tbirdkid

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sun Oct 19 2014 09:23 AM

If you are the expert why would you be so unsure, ask me why....and remove the original picture?
Posted by: hancock-oil

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sun Oct 19 2014 09:51 AM

Strange thing to me is the Salt Creek Marine seems too specialized. Otherwise Looks good to me but I can't see as Good as the old days! Jim
Posted by: richlube

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sun Oct 19 2014 11:48 AM

here is a Evinrude sign recently sold on ebay measures 13+6 inches
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Posted by: THERMOMAN

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sun Oct 19 2014 12:54 PM



Here is a fake porcelain thermometer I bought from ebay 2 years ago from same group of sellers. It would fool 99% of the target audience.

Posted by: THERMOMAN

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sun Oct 19 2014 12:54 PM

I believe that wes hagues evinrude sign and the one that is pictured from ebay are 100% fakes.

these signs were made in texas and distributed mainly through ebay. ive heard the name dave justice linked to these signs. seller accounts change rapidly and usually don't aquire too many feedbacks until they open up another account. seller locations are Midwest, out west, USA and a few other vague locations. the return address on the packaging will be a PO box from las vegas. I have been burned twice by these forgers.

the evinrude script has been transported from another sign where the other sign wanted the font to have depth and distance, like the cardboard sign in the picture....or a photo was taken of another sign where the photographer was not standing directly perpendicular to the sign. the evinrude script font was then stretched and fitted into the space allotted on the signs in question. this gives the screwed up font.

the chip are struck with an energized electrode or welding tip to give the illusion of heavy scaling or depth in the chips. wes, if you look closely at the chips you find small boogers on the bare metal.

after cleaning the sign the chipped area was easy to return to fresh new steel.....not easily done on a sign that has been in the whether for 50 years.

the evinrude sign from ebay isn't even squared up with the design. the distance between the edge of the sign and the top of the letters is not consistant.

same goofy corrosion on both signs.......on all their signs, couple days old at best.

I believe a lot of the smaller signs, thermometers, plate toppers and flange signs are made from cannibilizing junk signs. I had one of their porcelain flange signs in my hand. the guage of metal used for the sign was too light for a porcelain flange sign. the porcelain larro feed flange sign on ebay right now is a fake. and the seller id....just as I stated has minimal feedback and will go away in a month or so.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-General-Mill...=item3cea6be410

if kieth siegel (57tbird) or mark elmore (gulfiend) are talking about fake signs and you are lucky enough to be within ears distance.....I would take notes and listen up. the years spent in the hobby, the amount of money you spend at auctions, or the number of signs you have on your wall is not a substitute for the passion and knowledge these guys give to the hobby.

Posted by: Dave's Garage

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sun Oct 19 2014 03:12 PM

Originally Posted By: thermoman
I believe that wes hagues evinrude sign and the one that is pictured from ebay are 100% fakes.

if kieth siegel (57tbird) or mark elmore (gulfiend) are talking about fake signs and you are lucky enough to be within ears distance.....I would take notes and listen up. the years spent in the hobby, the amount of money you spend at auctions, or the number of signs you have on your wall is not a substitute for the passion and knowledge these guys give to the hobby.



Passion and Knowledge, now there's something every picker needs to wrap their heads around.

Not Wes's first time selling a fake or defending a fake sign.

http://www.oldgas.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=422915&page=1

Everyone and anyone of us can make a mistake. The collector's; simply learn the lesson and then try to help others.

While greedy pickers...risk their reputations by denying the oblivious...and still hoping/wanting to pass on the fake sign. Be open minded and listen to the knowledge being shared...then accept the truth and destroy or mark the sign. You can defend that fake sign all you like...it ain't going to change what the rest of us know.
Posted by: Wes Hague

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sun Oct 19 2014 04:13 PM

"Daves Garage in BC" what you know ain't worth knowing...Your a Rookie so how could you possible know anything.. I've bought and sold more stuff in the last year than you have likely seen since you started collecting if thats what you call it. Anything I've seen of yours is third rate junk to me. Go back on the porch as you aren't good enough or smart enough to run with the big dogs. I appreciate what Thermoman and 57Tbird are telling me,, for them to make a post of " It's a fake" and "I agree " isn't good enough for me without an explanation why they said that.
Posted by: THERMOMAN

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sun Oct 19 2014 05:50 PM

How pathetic to judge a fellow member of the hobby based on his time in service. Shouldn't you you judge him on how he has spent it. There are some extremely savvy people out there with less experience and time in the hobby than me. I lean on several collectors for guidance that have less time in. What a shame that you continue to go down this road.
Posted by: Dave's Garage

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sun Oct 19 2014 05:54 PM

You have been busted at least twice for selling reproduction signs. That fact alone speaks volumes of your experience. That in itself is enough proof of how little you know.

Read your post...you have removed all doubt from anyone's mind of your absolute lack of class and smarts.
Posted by: pop and gas man

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sun Oct 19 2014 06:50 PM

well said
Posted by: Wes Hague

Re: Evinrude outboard signs - Sun Oct 19 2014 07:16 PM

Of all the hundreds of signs and items I have sold on OLDGAS alone in 7 years , I have two signs that are in question since 2007 and I'm the bad guy,, guys come here when someone is selling something, blurt out a couple of words of opinions,,( fake, repro, etc.) go away and say nothing more. Some of the guys on here have no idea what there talking about especially Dave's Garage, all he does is be a cheer leader for anyone with an opinion, right or wrong, because I question peoples opinions on what is a fake and what is not and I get accused of passing fake stuff for original. Did you ever think for a minute that I would NOT intentionally try selling a fake item on OLDGAS with all the repro POLICE on here, that maybe, JUST maybe, it's not intentional ? Some of you guys need to give your heads a shake.. I could see what Dan Matthews ( Morphy's Auction) meant in an earlier post re auctions on absentee bids.., accusations unfounded, I too am sick and tired of the ***** on here.