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SO...

Being that everyone here is saying $750 for the pair (including shipping) is too much, what IS the value of these SUPER COMMON globes?

Who here has some in similar condition that would be willing to sell two at the same price I'm offering them at?

Can't see how $750 shipping included is too much for two great original pieces of standard oil history!?!?

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Posted By: BryceG Re: RED CROWN GAS GLOBES WITH ORIGINAL RETAINING RINGS - Fri Sep 12 2014 04:21 PM
i dont think $750 is unreasonable... but considering you can get one complete with good paint for $400-500... it makes those in that condition a hard sell. Have to find someone willing to do the work that it takes to repaint.

I think in that condition, with that much paint wear... they are more around a $275-300 each value. But thats also just my opinion.
[quote=BryceG considering you can get one complete with good paint for $400-500... it makes those in that condition a hard sell. [/quote]

Can you provide completed eBay listing #s and or somewhere else that I can find these readily available complete with good paint globes for $400-$500?

Greg
Posted By: BryceG Re: RED CROWN GAS GLOBES WITH ORIGINAL RETAINING RINGS - Fri Sep 12 2014 04:57 PM
not that this is necessary... but maybe it will silence your need to justify yourself.

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I'm talking about TODAY
The pics you posted above are either over a year old or don't have a date or selling source listed...
Posted By: BryceG Re: RED CROWN GAS GLOBES WITH ORIGINAL RETAINING RINGS - Fri Sep 12 2014 05:02 PM
*sigh*

..i tried. and you wonder why most of your threads get locked. whistle
It is clear that $750 for the pair is a very fair price.

I just get a kick out of the few members here that insist on pushing back and trash talking anything for sale that is not theirs or one of their cronies...
Are you serious Brice was kind enough to answer your ridiculous question with proof that better globes sell at a regular price range and yours aren't near that condition so they would sell for less.

I'd only want to pay 175-225 for one of these in your condition. There's no way I'd ever want to pay 750 for two bad condition globes when I know I can pay 800-1000 for two great condition ones.

I'm sure this will be gone in an hour or so that's ok.


Lock it up.
I removed a post that was clearly against the guidelines. Name calling is not allowed, Period. Simple English folks... I can say it in Spanish if you would understand that more clearly.

FWIW, you want a red crown in similar condition to yours for less money? Send me a PM...
Originally Posted By: gr8_signfinds
Can't see how $750 shipping included is too much for two great original pieces of standard oil history!?!?


...because - of all of Standard's crowns - these are, by far, the most common...and the paint is in terrible condition...

...'great original pieces of standard oil history' is mere puffery, and could easily be applied to maps and match covers as well...might work at a general auction, but it won't cut any ice on a site like Oldgas...

...will someone eventually pay you $750 for two globes that look like this? Possibly - but likely not on a forum such as this one, where better quality items are often available for less money...you will likely have better luck offering these at the local flea market (or farm auction), minus your shipping cost, of course...there you will have a bigger pool of beginner 'collectors', who would be too excited about merely finding an original gas globe, to consider things like rarity and condition...
Posted By: s932 Re: RED CROWN GAS GLOBES WITH ORIGINAL RETAINING RINGS - Fri Sep 12 2014 09:06 PM
Gulfiend said it best right there. One more thing you blame oldgas but you keep listing it in eBay and they haven't sold either so that should tell you something.
Mabey this'll help.

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Originally Posted By: JUNK KING
Mabey this'll help.

I'll file that under WWDBHaveSaid! LOL
Originally Posted By: s932
Gulfiend said it best right there. One more thing you blame oldgas but you keep listing it in eBay and they haven't sold either so that should tell you something.


...and it's not; because a few e-Bay

Originally Posted By: gr8_signfinds
"members insist on pushing back and trash talking anything for sale that is not theirs or one of their cronies".
750 is insane for 2 worn out common crowns. Even for 3 of em it's high unless shipping is included. Stick to signs. Looks like you overpaid for these.
Originally Posted By: gr8_signfinds
SO...

Being that everyone here is saying $750 for the pair (including shipping) is too much, what IS the value of these SUPER COMMON globes?

Who here has some in similar condition that would be willing to sell two at the same price I'm offering them at?

Can't see how $750 shipping included is too much for two great original pieces of standard oil history!?!?

I'm a globe collector and I used to collect Standard items so I figure I can give you an informed opinion on your globes.
Here goes....
To a serious collector they would have little or no value. Why? First off non-lettered Red Crowns are one of the most common gas pump globe ever used. That's no exaggeration. Standard (IND) was a huge company with a large marketing territory. They used that globe from 1932 until the early 1960's. Most stations replaced the globes as the paint became worn. There are many, many Red Crown globes still in existence.
So what are they worth? I don't know of a single globe collector that's been around any time at all that would be interested at any price unless they were buying for resale. That's because of the very poor condition of the paint. An inexperienced collector might pay in the $200 each range at a petro swap meet. I agree with the poster that said the best place to sell those would be a local auction where the buyers aren't familiar with how common those globes are.
Collectors of Standard items won't touch those globes because of the condition. NOS or very close to NOS (non-lettered)Red Crowns generally sell in the $600 range. On a good day they might bring $800.
The condition of the paint kills the value of your globes.....same as it would any globe. Think of it this way...if you had a nice 3pc globe with good graphics that might be worth $3000 then washed off 90% of the paint what do you think it would be worth? Basically it would be worth the price of the body. What makes you think washed out extremely common globes are worth so much?
Reproductions and repainted originals are also keeping the the value of washed out crowns low.
If you're serious about selling them either consign them to a local auction or list them on ebay for $200 each with no reserve.
Or you can continue to argue with the people that have more experience and more knowledge about the hobby.

I have some "super common" globes in my collection. I have some incredibly rare globes too. Of my 160+ globes I don't have any in that poor condition. But if I did own those two washed out crowns I'd sell them for $750 shipped in a heartbeat!

Rather that argue with the collectors that know what they're talking about you'd be much better off educating yourself about what you're buying and selling.
Posted By: s932 Re: RED CROWN GAS GLOBES WITH ORIGINAL RETAINING RINGS - Sun Sep 14 2014 12:25 AM
Great comments Bob, doesn't get any better than that
Posted By: wocopep Re: RED CROWN GAS GLOBES WITH ORIGINAL RETAINING RINGS - Sun Sep 14 2014 12:59 AM
I agree with the assessment of about 175.00 to 200.00 apiece to a beginner or novice collector. But I also agree that you can ask whatever you want for them. Every now and then even a blind squirrel will find a nut.
gr8signfinds@gmail.com you have had many experienced collectors spend there time and give you very credible explanations on value. You asked for a value. We all have patently spoon fed you. Please take our advice or quit posting in this category and wasting valuable knowledge that could be shared with people who are looking for values and not our time. Thank you.
Most members here know I'm a picker/reseller, I buy and sell stuff like those globes. The last one I had which had similar loss of paint sold for $200 after I hauled it for about a month to markets and shows attended by collectors. No reason to ship them, a local buyer is far better than risking damage in shipment. Better yet trade them off to someone for signs.

And gr8signfinds, the market on globes doesn't alter nearly so much as on signs, so the auction results are quite valid that were given. No need to discount them just because you might not like the facts. Maybe you overpaid for them? That's what I usually find out when someone discounts sound and reasonable responses.

Throw them up on craigslist in your area at $500 obo for the pair, or invest in some restoration.
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