6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY

Posted by: tomzcollectiblez

6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY - Fri Jun 27 2008 08:23 AM

I bought this for my hallway BUT it's a little too big so I placed the sign on ebay.
NO RESERVE!!!
SIGN SOLD WITH BUY IT NOW!!!!! THANKS!



[This message has been edited by tomzcollectiblez (edited 06-28-2008).]
Posted by: Rick Brown

Re: 6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY - Mon Jun 30 2008 08:15 PM

Funny, auction 140244759201 that you are talking about ended because of an error in the listing, not with a buy it now. Looks like eBay and perhaps old gas lost fees
Posted by: KZ1000

Re: 6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY - Tue Jul 01 2008 06:45 AM

That is why ebay has to raise it's fees all the time, it is very similar to Shoplifting
Posted by: blacktee

Re: 6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY - Tue Jul 01 2008 09:20 AM

Edit the whole thing, don't even want to get into it.



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Posted by: Dick Bennett

Re: 6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY - Tue Jul 01 2008 07:26 PM

QUOTE "
A: Thanks for the offer MIKE. I have been already been offered 700 to end auction BUT I won't! AUCTION WILL RUN TO END IN FAIRNESS TO ALL!!! "End Quote
Posted by: tomzcollectiblez

Re: 6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY - Tue Jul 01 2008 09:09 PM

I offered this sign for sale on oldgas 2 or 3 weeks ago for $1000. At the same time I offered it to several local collectors. My buddy from Middlebury was on vacation and didn't get my pics and email until it was already on ebay...
He accepted the "1200 DELIVERED" offer that I had made him so I ended the listing.
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I ONLY had 4 options to choose from to END the Listing!
1)Sell to high bidder at current price?
2)Item was lost or broken?
3)error in listing
4)Item no longer for sale?
So I simply picked error in listing!
EBAY STILL GOT THEIR LISTING FEES
He paid with paypal so Ebay knows and got paid there too.
I should have NOT listed the sign UNTIL I heard back from him and I apologize for any inconvenience!
Posted by: Rick Brown

Re: 6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY - Wed Jul 02 2008 06:09 AM

Option one was the right one, but you would have had to have your buddy out bid the other bidder and then end the auction. Then again, your buddy may have got if for less and ebay would have collected the Final Value Fees. That "In Fairness To All" claim would have been less of an issue. Power of the $$$$$$$$$$ wins again!
Posted by: powerlube

Re: 6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY - Wed Jul 02 2008 09:55 AM

Comon guys give Tom a break... We see everyday on ebay listings the the owner has the item for sale elsewhere. Tom gets a full price over and now you roast him over the fire? You could have emailed Tom asked the price and bought it. TO MY KNOWLEDGE ebay does not prevent you from taking items off if they are no longer available.
If you guys have a beef, its with ebay. Email them and tell them you want the sellers to guarantee items will be sold to the highest bidder. To date that is not a requirement on ebay...
Posted by: cggas

Re: 6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY - Wed Jul 02 2008 10:22 AM

everyone else that sells on ebay will, and has ended auctions early. everyone can sell there items how they chose. cggas
Posted by: blacktee

Re: 6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY - Wed Jul 02 2008 07:03 PM

And how about collectors who email sellers, trying to get them to end auctions early. Giving everyone the shaft except their selfish selfs ? Fire away anyone, i'm good for some hits.
Posted by: KZ1000

Re: 6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY - Thu Jul 03 2008 08:28 AM

What TOMZ did was SCREWED ebay out of their due money, he used them for contacts and then took their contacts and used them for his own gain,
Yes, you can sell your item as you want, Ebay provides an excellent selling source, when you list and sell an item, you should pay them for it.
Many people yank their items after finding a buyer, it is done all the time, usually by the same group. (the ones selling the high dollar signs). It all boils down to GREED.
I said enough, I personally prefer to deal with straight and level sellers
Posted by: Wes Hague

Re: 6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY - Thu Jul 03 2008 10:27 AM

GET OVER IT GUYS,,, COLLECTING IS ONE THING, SELLING IS ANOTHER , IT'S CALLED BUISNESS,,,. I BELIEVE EVERYONE WANTS THE MOST THEY CAN GET FOR THEIR ITEM,, IT'S CALLED LOOKING OUT FOR YOURSELF FIRST. Ebay allows it to happen that way for a reason, they are looking after number one first, they would rather get a listing fee and other fees than not get anything at all.The guys that wait till the end of the auction to bid are trying to get it for the cheapest possible amount they can and the seller is trying to get the most possible amount they can. It happens that the seller owns the item and has control and can do with it as he wishes.. Thats what P---'s snipe bidders off.. I'm also one of them...have fun and don't take this stuff so serious.. it's just stuff and theres lots of it out there..
Posted by: Rick Brown

Re: 6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY - Thu Jul 03 2008 11:26 AM

THIS IS NOT HOW EBAY PLANNED THINGS TO HAPPEN. THIS IS FRAUD. HE ENDED AN AUCTION EARLY AND SOLD THE ITEM OUT OF AUCTION. EBAY CALLS THIS FEE AVOIDANCE, AND IT CAN GET YOU TOSSED OFF THE SITE. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS, HE RESPONDED TO A QUESTIONS ABOUT BUY IT NOW AND STATED, IN FAIRNESS TO ALL, I WILL NOT END THE AUCTION EARLY. THIS WAS NOT THE TRUTH, AS HE POSTED ON THIS SITE HE SOLD WITH BUY IT NOW. THE EBAY SYSTEM ALLOW YOU TO END AN AUCTION EARLY AND SALE TO THE HIGH BIDDER. HAD HE DONE THIS IT IS POSSIBLE THAT HIS FRIEND WOULD HAVE WON THE DEAL FOR LESS MONEY, AND TOM WOULD HAVE HAD TO PAY EBAY FINAL VALUE FEES. DEFEND HIM ALL YOU WANT, IT WAS WRONG, AND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE TO PAY HIGHER FEES TO EBAY!

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Posted by: bustermonty

Re: 6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY - Thu Jul 03 2008 12:06 PM

Wes hit the nail on the head! Get over it. If you want to complain about something why not focus on the repops ebay allows to be sold every day to unsuspecting buyers. Now on to Tom. I picked up the phone and called him to get the right story. Anyone who knows Tom knows he is a man of his word and loyal to his customers. He offered the sign to the man who bought it. The guy was out of town. Tom listed the sign. Stated to someone who had the audacity to make contact and an offer to buy LOL that he would not end the auction. The guy got back, read the email offer from Tom before the listing started and said he wanted the sign. End of story. NO FRAUD, NO FEE AVOIDANCE, NO SHOPLIFTING. Just a guy honoring his offer to a customer. As stated the item is no longer available for sale to a contact that had zero to do with ebay. I myself as an aggressive collector will continue to make offers to end auctions, snipe what I can't get, and cry when I get beat. I'm with Wes, Don't be so serious lighten up and have fun.
Posted by: KZ1000

Re: 6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY - Thu Jul 03 2008 12:41 PM

Well said Rick Brown, and all the others who emailed me personally to say they feel the same way, Glad to see we are in the majority
Posted by: Alex

Re: 6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY - Thu Jul 03 2008 02:10 PM

Hey KZ1000---Beingin the majority doesn't always make you right. And just becasue someone didn't email you saying they disagree doesn't mean the majority feels that way. I think Tom is a straight shooter. Biggest mistake was to not check the "item is no longer for sale" option. Many items on ebay are listed that they are for sale in another venue. Ebay is not like a traditional auction where the item is there. Ebay does allow for people to change their minds about how or when they sell. Even if you are the high bidder, ebay cannot force the seller (or the buyer) to complete the sale.

Dissapointing??? Yes. Life changing?? Nope. When I was selling on ebay more I used to get one to three offers a week to end auctions early outside of ebay.
Posted by: KZ1000

Re: 6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY - Thu Jul 03 2008 03:58 PM

Good for you, I get them all the time too, I just delete them. I am a man of my word
Posted by: Oldgas

Re: 6 Foot Texaco 2 sided Porcelain Sign on EBAY - Thu Jul 03 2008 07:16 PM

My experience with Tom is that he is a stand-up guy. He did check the wrong box when ending the auction and didn't choose accurate words when he said it was "buy it now."

He offered it for sale prior to eBay and followed through on that deal. That is allowed on eBay. We all see auctions ended early and it is frustrating for us buyers. But the item owner has the call to sell at another venue or not within the rules.

Let's not beat up on a fellow member of the Oldgas.com Shop Talk community because he didn't do it the way you prefer. What he did was legal and is a fairly common practice. Let's complain about real problems like repros offered as original and stuff like that.

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