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Rust Rot Repair Question. #679190
Sun Feb 12 2017 04:33 AM
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I'm just curious, in a case like this, can these panels be saved? Can a good metal guy cut these off and new metal shaped and welded on?
I'm just curious as to what is possible in this situation.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1940s-TOKHEIM-39...R-/292026139506

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Last edited by Steven C.; Sun Feb 12 2017 04:35 AM.

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Re: Rust Rot Repair Question. [Re: Steven C.] #679192
Sun Feb 12 2017 05:12 AM
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Those could be fixed. It would be a lot of work. The pitting in the rest of the skins would also be a pain to deal with. If the pump was cheap and you could do the work yourself it could be a good project...


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Re: Rust Rot Repair Question. [Re: Steven C.] #679194
Sun Feb 12 2017 06:47 AM
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In my opinion, this one is too far gone, to make it worth the time and expense? Not only are the skins shot but the base has chunks broken out of it? This unit is barely something to put in the garden as yard art. At $750. ridiculous asking price? Being real, I wouldn't want it for $100? There are no parts that can be reused without tons of effort. Paul www.severngaspumps.com

Re: Rust Rot Repair Question. [Re: Steven C.] #679195
Sun Feb 12 2017 07:16 AM
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I have restored several pumps in this condition. I'm a cheapskate, and was wowed by the really cheap prices on them. Can they be restored? You bet, but take my word, the cheap pumps that most consider too far gone cost far more to restore than to buy a good pump up front. On all those cheap pumps I have always lost my shirt when I get paid for working on them. That pump on eBay is way overpriced. It seems like an American picker type found it in a swamp and thought he won the lottery, when in reality the price is so off base, and unrealistic.

Re: Rust Rot Repair Question. [Re: Steven C.] #679196
Sun Feb 12 2017 07:29 AM
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I agree. If you offered me that pump for free, I would likely pass.

Re: Rust Rot Repair Question. [Re: Steven C.] #679201
Sun Feb 12 2017 07:56 AM
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Gas pumps are like cars. You are so much further ahead to buy a rust free one. Junk can be fixed ,but when you are done you still have junk!

Re: Rust Rot Repair Question. [Re: Steven C.] #679208
Sun Feb 12 2017 08:26 AM
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Not to mention all the missing parts! There's no telling how much you would have in it before it's done. For not much more you could get a good one from Buckels. Heck, I think I have one for like $850


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Re: Rust Rot Repair Question. [Re: Steven C.] #679209
Sun Feb 12 2017 08:44 AM
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A common pump like a tall Tokheim 39 definitely not worth it for all the reasons already stated above.

If it were a more desirable and a rare pump then in certain instances it could be worth the extra effort. I agree, in most cases, it is better to pay the money upfront for a nice clean pump.I guess, the ultimate question is what is your time worth to you?


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Re: Rust Rot Repair Question. [Re: Steven C.] #679211
Sun Feb 12 2017 09:01 AM
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Carthage, IN USA
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Yikes...! That one even scares me and I'm a junk guy....lol. Just from what I can see in the pictures I don't see over $150 in sellable parts and that is retail. Everybody has gave you good advise.

Tom.


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Re: Rust Rot Repair Question. [Re: Steven C.] #679239
Sun Feb 12 2017 01:19 PM
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Thanks to all for the info.
I was only using this pump as an example. I too think this way over priced.
But, original parts, no matter the condition will not be available forever. Like these ad glass panels. I was just wondering if they can be saved.
Thanks again guys!!


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Re: Rust Rot Repair Question. [Re: Steven C.] #679250
Sun Feb 12 2017 02:20 PM
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A piece of junk, even the face is bent. Not even a good parts pump. Like someone said a common pump, I even have a complete Bowser I will sell for $500, there are plenty of this type pump out there.

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Re: Rust Rot Repair Question. [Re: Steven C.] #679443
Tue Feb 14 2017 11:46 AM
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Definitely expensive. But the pump looks perfect as it is. I would just leave it and add a nice globe and front sign.

Re: Rust Rot Repair Question. [Re: Steven C.] #679658
Fri Feb 17 2017 11:57 AM
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Can be fixed, but too much labor. There will likely be many more holes once its sandblasted too.

Re: Rust Rot Repair Question. [Re: Steven C.] #679679
Fri Feb 17 2017 04:18 PM
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Steve after a number of restored pumps, this is my rule....Solid with minimal rust , have it's computer(if used)and have all it's original trim. You can find glass, seals, faces and most tags but the trim and it retainers are a big item because any pump that you have to find/order any reproduction parts add up the $$$$ needed to restore!

That ones a bad parts pump!!


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