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Wayne # 40 Clockfaces... ...need feedback please #127215
Thu Jan 04 2007 10:02 AM
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I took a set of 866 faces and reduced them on paper in color so they would be the same size as a 40 face. I would like to get some opinions on this before making them.
Like them or hate them ?????????????
RSVP, ASAP...please
Thanks Joe


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Re: Wayne # 40 Clockfaces... ...need feedback please #127216
Thu Jan 04 2007 10:25 AM
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Are you planning on using the style with the red, black and gold lettering?
Ron


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Re: Wayne # 40 Clockfaces... ...need feedback please #127217
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yes ...Is there a problem with that????
Is there a copyright on this design?????


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Re: Wayne # 40 Clockfaces... ...need feedback please #127218
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I'm confused, the Wayne 40 was a computer pump. Why make them to fit a 40?


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Re: Wayne # 40 Clockfaces... ...need feedback please #127219
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A Wayne 40 ,50, Tohiem 34 took an 8" computer
I have designed a clock to take the place of this computer if it is missing. The conversion of a 12" computer into an 8" computer is way too involved and would cost way too much.. This clock gives you something to put in the cabinet if you have no luck finding a computer. The 8" computers are hard to find....what good is a cabinet with no computer?These clocks work.I have already had inquiries about faces for the 40 from people who have no computers.
Thanks........Joe


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Re: Wayne # 40 Clockfaces... ...need feedback please #127220
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Ok ...here is another idea....I could make a computer to take the place of an 8" but it would not be functional. All it would have are wheels,6 or 9 wheel. The cost would be about the same for either
Let's have a vote.....
Non-funtional restored computer or
funtional clock, for the 40, 50. Tokheim 34

You would have to send in O/S crankback computer core on either
Thanks ....Joe


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Re: Wayne # 40 Clockfaces... ...need feedback please #127221
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If I could not find a computer, I would do a fake computer face until I could find a real one, I would never put a clock face in a 40. The Wayne 40 would be a very easy pump to change back over to the real thing.

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Re: Wayne # 40 Clockfaces... ...need feedback please #127222
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I guess I should be flattered that you are considering copying that design instead of the original.
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Re: Wayne # 40 Clockfaces... ...need feedback please #127223
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Joe why not use like an Erie U-10 face...just block out the Erie name and use on Wayne 40,50 and Tokheim 34...I think its a lot nicer face than the Wayne 861...mm


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Re: Wayne # 40 Clockfaces... ...need feedback please #127224
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The 866 faces were the only ones I had.

I had an idea last night so I went to staples this morning.....and on the color printer they can reduce the image to fit
another size. I was amazed at the quality,
if the paper was laminated ...you could have a good looking face for next to nothing.
You could take a 36-B clock face and have them alter it to fit a #34.They can alter vertical and horizontal to fit.This of course would only work for the flat faces

cool huh???


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Re: Wayne # 40 Clockfaces... ...need feedback please #127225
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Nice work!! I've never done a clockface pump to date... Dave

Re: Wayne # 40 Clockfaces... ...need feedback please #127226
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Why not spend some time/money and make up your own artwork. That way some of us won't be upset... I did that back in 1992 with the image you are showing. My artwork cost back then was $195.65. That included having an original 866 face scanned and then making film positives for the red (my idea), black and gold.
Ron

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Re: Wayne # 40 Clockfaces... ...need feedback please #127227
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I don't understand...are you flattered or angry.If this is your design I won't use it.
If it is the color scheme you are worried about, then I won't use it. Ron,
You were the first person I approached when I had a working prototype of this clock that I am trying to come up with faces for.You didn't seem too interested in it.apparently Andy wasn't either.Your 866,36-B,B-38,77,373, faces should work on my 12" clock so you can now change 60,36-B,
A-38,76,541, into a clock pump from a computer pump.This will help you sell faces.
I am almost positive people will start to copy my clock.....I really don't care.
Joe


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Re: Wayne # 40 Clockfaces... ...need feedback please #127228
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You know, I have been holding back and did not want to give my two cents on this. BUT, WHY on gods green earth would anyone spend good money to have a veedor root restored AND converted to be a phoney clock face? Maybe its just me! But if ya' don't have a real clock face mechanism why not just use an inexpensive clock conversion??? THE PUMP is still a conversion and not worth more! COOL, SURE! Heck I like em'! BUT THEY ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A FAKE! I can completely understand having a veedor root restored. It is NOT something everyone can do! Or even wants to try.


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Re: Wayne # 40 Clockfaces... ...need feedback please #127229
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It is like tv...if you don't want one don't buy one..There are a lot of folks that want one.This is a clock that works made of gas pump parts....how can it be Fake. Ron's repro faces are "fake", Repro parts are Fake. Repro pumps are Fake. How many Fake parts are on your pumps???? Were your repro parts made from real ones?
My unit is $200, For about $300.00
you can have a working clock, faces and hands
That is only $50.00 more than the 36-B conversion, Why spend $50.00 less for static hand setup?My clock is not reproduction parts.It is a converted part. If you had a Fry 117-R 10 gallon that used to be a 5 gallon would you build it as a 10 or 5?
I make no claims as it to increase the value of your pump,But it will increase it's beauty.Isn't that the goal, a pump you think as beautiful??? And a static setup is even more fake than you are calling this, yet you are indorsing the static setup?????

There are not enough origional clock units out there to fill just the 866's that are missing their units.If you were to repro that unit noone could afford it.
Thanks ....Joe


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